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December 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM #14591December 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM #313058San Diego RE BearParticipant
I would start with Fund 0030 – Vanguard Prime Money Market. It’s fairly safe (would probably be the last MMF to fail) and pays a decent interest rate. Later it will allow you to set up a Dollar Cost Averaging plan into a fund of your choice either with Vanguard or outside through their Brokerage Services. But you don’t have to do that yet – maybe wait for the DOW to hit a certain point before buying back in. (I’m looking for under 7,000 and think it may drop more but that’s when I’ll start buying.)
By all means fund the Roth – You don’t have to invest it now. And with 40 years to go even if you did you would be fine.
Good Luck!
December 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM #313468San Diego RE BearParticipantI would start with Fund 0030 – Vanguard Prime Money Market. It’s fairly safe (would probably be the last MMF to fail) and pays a decent interest rate. Later it will allow you to set up a Dollar Cost Averaging plan into a fund of your choice either with Vanguard or outside through their Brokerage Services. But you don’t have to do that yet – maybe wait for the DOW to hit a certain point before buying back in. (I’m looking for under 7,000 and think it may drop more but that’s when I’ll start buying.)
By all means fund the Roth – You don’t have to invest it now. And with 40 years to go even if you did you would be fine.
Good Luck!
December 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM #313446San Diego RE BearParticipantI would start with Fund 0030 – Vanguard Prime Money Market. It’s fairly safe (would probably be the last MMF to fail) and pays a decent interest rate. Later it will allow you to set up a Dollar Cost Averaging plan into a fund of your choice either with Vanguard or outside through their Brokerage Services. But you don’t have to do that yet – maybe wait for the DOW to hit a certain point before buying back in. (I’m looking for under 7,000 and think it may drop more but that’s when I’ll start buying.)
By all means fund the Roth – You don’t have to invest it now. And with 40 years to go even if you did you would be fine.
Good Luck!
December 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM #313415San Diego RE BearParticipantI would start with Fund 0030 – Vanguard Prime Money Market. It’s fairly safe (would probably be the last MMF to fail) and pays a decent interest rate. Later it will allow you to set up a Dollar Cost Averaging plan into a fund of your choice either with Vanguard or outside through their Brokerage Services. But you don’t have to do that yet – maybe wait for the DOW to hit a certain point before buying back in. (I’m looking for under 7,000 and think it may drop more but that’s when I’ll start buying.)
By all means fund the Roth – You don’t have to invest it now. And with 40 years to go even if you did you would be fine.
Good Luck!
December 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM #313538San Diego RE BearParticipantI would start with Fund 0030 – Vanguard Prime Money Market. It’s fairly safe (would probably be the last MMF to fail) and pays a decent interest rate. Later it will allow you to set up a Dollar Cost Averaging plan into a fund of your choice either with Vanguard or outside through their Brokerage Services. But you don’t have to do that yet – maybe wait for the DOW to hit a certain point before buying back in. (I’m looking for under 7,000 and think it may drop more but that’s when I’ll start buying.)
By all means fund the Roth – You don’t have to invest it now. And with 40 years to go even if you did you would be fine.
Good Luck!
December 8, 2008 at 6:29 PM #313563sd_bearParticipantThank you RE Bear. That is pretty much the kind of fund I’m looking for.
My price point for stocks is around 7k as well, but I don’t want to forgo putting money into the IRA just because the economy is in the toilet. My 65 year old future self will probably thank me.
Still taking other suggestions though, if anyone else has an opinion.
December 8, 2008 at 6:29 PM #313493sd_bearParticipantThank you RE Bear. That is pretty much the kind of fund I’m looking for.
My price point for stocks is around 7k as well, but I don’t want to forgo putting money into the IRA just because the economy is in the toilet. My 65 year old future self will probably thank me.
Still taking other suggestions though, if anyone else has an opinion.
December 8, 2008 at 6:29 PM #313471sd_bearParticipantThank you RE Bear. That is pretty much the kind of fund I’m looking for.
My price point for stocks is around 7k as well, but I don’t want to forgo putting money into the IRA just because the economy is in the toilet. My 65 year old future self will probably thank me.
Still taking other suggestions though, if anyone else has an opinion.
December 8, 2008 at 6:29 PM #313440sd_bearParticipantThank you RE Bear. That is pretty much the kind of fund I’m looking for.
My price point for stocks is around 7k as well, but I don’t want to forgo putting money into the IRA just because the economy is in the toilet. My 65 year old future self will probably thank me.
Still taking other suggestions though, if anyone else has an opinion.
December 8, 2008 at 6:29 PM #313083sd_bearParticipantThank you RE Bear. That is pretty much the kind of fund I’m looking for.
My price point for stocks is around 7k as well, but I don’t want to forgo putting money into the IRA just because the economy is in the toilet. My 65 year old future self will probably thank me.
Still taking other suggestions though, if anyone else has an opinion.
December 8, 2008 at 8:17 PM #313513stockstradrParticipantToo early to start buying stocks? What about recently when the S&P500 bottomed at 750 during the week of Nov 20th?
I don’t mean to nitpick, but consider these points:
1) Just last week most oil stocks were at new lows with oil at $40/bbl. Trust me that oil stocks were then (and probably still are) a bargain. The oil stocks I bought then (7 days ago) are now up 15% on average, and some (like PBR) are up 20%.
Consider: 15% is a fine return for stocks in a retirement portfolio over a FULL YEAR, yet in THIS market I just showed you how easy to get that 15% in just seven days. There is money to be made, easy money. Some stocks are very worth buying NOW, and I don’t mean for a quick “pump and dump” ; I mean worthy to buy then HOLD for years to come.
2) Lot’s of GREAT stocks recently hit lows, particularly during the week of Nov 20th when the S&P500 bottomed at 750. I’m talking about stocks like Wells Fargo, which was about $22 on Nov 20th when I bought it. It is now just under $33.
How about Flextronics? I’m not saying that is a stellar CM (contract manufacturer) by any stretch, but what about at a price of $1.50 share during the week of NOv 20th? That day I bought ten grand at $1.60 and then dumped it a few days later for $2.10. I made over 20% on that in just three days. Yet that stock is now sitting at $2.40 (I should have kept it!)
So many bargains. I could go on and on. Honestly, some days it feels like shooting fish in a barrel. Too easy.
3) However, I do agree it is too early in this business cycle for anyone to just go buy random diversified stock funds (why would you do that anyway?), also too early to buy (and hold) the indexes.
Yet, don’t completely turn your back on this market. Pick through the bodies and the blood and you’ll find some real bargains!
Do you know what I did to my ROTH IRA since Oct 2007? I increased it by 82%. Absolutely no joke. I just audited all the trades in that account this weekend, to calculate my YTD net appreciation. However, I do admit that is the account in which I place all my options trades, so I used extreme risk and leverage to get that gain. That account also only contains only 25% of my total portfolio (and no way did I manage to pull 82% across my entire portfolio – dream on)
IMPORTANT: the above advice (to make quick money on speculative bets in this market) assumes that your $4K or $5K is a SMALL percentage of your overall retirement portfolio. If it isn’t then you should probably just put it in a money market fund.
December 8, 2008 at 8:17 PM #313582stockstradrParticipantToo early to start buying stocks? What about recently when the S&P500 bottomed at 750 during the week of Nov 20th?
I don’t mean to nitpick, but consider these points:
1) Just last week most oil stocks were at new lows with oil at $40/bbl. Trust me that oil stocks were then (and probably still are) a bargain. The oil stocks I bought then (7 days ago) are now up 15% on average, and some (like PBR) are up 20%.
Consider: 15% is a fine return for stocks in a retirement portfolio over a FULL YEAR, yet in THIS market I just showed you how easy to get that 15% in just seven days. There is money to be made, easy money. Some stocks are very worth buying NOW, and I don’t mean for a quick “pump and dump” ; I mean worthy to buy then HOLD for years to come.
2) Lot’s of GREAT stocks recently hit lows, particularly during the week of Nov 20th when the S&P500 bottomed at 750. I’m talking about stocks like Wells Fargo, which was about $22 on Nov 20th when I bought it. It is now just under $33.
How about Flextronics? I’m not saying that is a stellar CM (contract manufacturer) by any stretch, but what about at a price of $1.50 share during the week of NOv 20th? That day I bought ten grand at $1.60 and then dumped it a few days later for $2.10. I made over 20% on that in just three days. Yet that stock is now sitting at $2.40 (I should have kept it!)
So many bargains. I could go on and on. Honestly, some days it feels like shooting fish in a barrel. Too easy.
3) However, I do agree it is too early in this business cycle for anyone to just go buy random diversified stock funds (why would you do that anyway?), also too early to buy (and hold) the indexes.
Yet, don’t completely turn your back on this market. Pick through the bodies and the blood and you’ll find some real bargains!
Do you know what I did to my ROTH IRA since Oct 2007? I increased it by 82%. Absolutely no joke. I just audited all the trades in that account this weekend, to calculate my YTD net appreciation. However, I do admit that is the account in which I place all my options trades, so I used extreme risk and leverage to get that gain. That account also only contains only 25% of my total portfolio (and no way did I manage to pull 82% across my entire portfolio – dream on)
IMPORTANT: the above advice (to make quick money on speculative bets in this market) assumes that your $4K or $5K is a SMALL percentage of your overall retirement portfolio. If it isn’t then you should probably just put it in a money market fund.
December 8, 2008 at 8:17 PM #313491stockstradrParticipantToo early to start buying stocks? What about recently when the S&P500 bottomed at 750 during the week of Nov 20th?
I don’t mean to nitpick, but consider these points:
1) Just last week most oil stocks were at new lows with oil at $40/bbl. Trust me that oil stocks were then (and probably still are) a bargain. The oil stocks I bought then (7 days ago) are now up 15% on average, and some (like PBR) are up 20%.
Consider: 15% is a fine return for stocks in a retirement portfolio over a FULL YEAR, yet in THIS market I just showed you how easy to get that 15% in just seven days. There is money to be made, easy money. Some stocks are very worth buying NOW, and I don’t mean for a quick “pump and dump” ; I mean worthy to buy then HOLD for years to come.
2) Lot’s of GREAT stocks recently hit lows, particularly during the week of Nov 20th when the S&P500 bottomed at 750. I’m talking about stocks like Wells Fargo, which was about $22 on Nov 20th when I bought it. It is now just under $33.
How about Flextronics? I’m not saying that is a stellar CM (contract manufacturer) by any stretch, but what about at a price of $1.50 share during the week of NOv 20th? That day I bought ten grand at $1.60 and then dumped it a few days later for $2.10. I made over 20% on that in just three days. Yet that stock is now sitting at $2.40 (I should have kept it!)
So many bargains. I could go on and on. Honestly, some days it feels like shooting fish in a barrel. Too easy.
3) However, I do agree it is too early in this business cycle for anyone to just go buy random diversified stock funds (why would you do that anyway?), also too early to buy (and hold) the indexes.
Yet, don’t completely turn your back on this market. Pick through the bodies and the blood and you’ll find some real bargains!
Do you know what I did to my ROTH IRA since Oct 2007? I increased it by 82%. Absolutely no joke. I just audited all the trades in that account this weekend, to calculate my YTD net appreciation. However, I do admit that is the account in which I place all my options trades, so I used extreme risk and leverage to get that gain. That account also only contains only 25% of my total portfolio (and no way did I manage to pull 82% across my entire portfolio – dream on)
IMPORTANT: the above advice (to make quick money on speculative bets in this market) assumes that your $4K or $5K is a SMALL percentage of your overall retirement portfolio. If it isn’t then you should probably just put it in a money market fund.
December 8, 2008 at 8:17 PM #313103stockstradrParticipantToo early to start buying stocks? What about recently when the S&P500 bottomed at 750 during the week of Nov 20th?
I don’t mean to nitpick, but consider these points:
1) Just last week most oil stocks were at new lows with oil at $40/bbl. Trust me that oil stocks were then (and probably still are) a bargain. The oil stocks I bought then (7 days ago) are now up 15% on average, and some (like PBR) are up 20%.
Consider: 15% is a fine return for stocks in a retirement portfolio over a FULL YEAR, yet in THIS market I just showed you how easy to get that 15% in just seven days. There is money to be made, easy money. Some stocks are very worth buying NOW, and I don’t mean for a quick “pump and dump” ; I mean worthy to buy then HOLD for years to come.
2) Lot’s of GREAT stocks recently hit lows, particularly during the week of Nov 20th when the S&P500 bottomed at 750. I’m talking about stocks like Wells Fargo, which was about $22 on Nov 20th when I bought it. It is now just under $33.
How about Flextronics? I’m not saying that is a stellar CM (contract manufacturer) by any stretch, but what about at a price of $1.50 share during the week of NOv 20th? That day I bought ten grand at $1.60 and then dumped it a few days later for $2.10. I made over 20% on that in just three days. Yet that stock is now sitting at $2.40 (I should have kept it!)
So many bargains. I could go on and on. Honestly, some days it feels like shooting fish in a barrel. Too easy.
3) However, I do agree it is too early in this business cycle for anyone to just go buy random diversified stock funds (why would you do that anyway?), also too early to buy (and hold) the indexes.
Yet, don’t completely turn your back on this market. Pick through the bodies and the blood and you’ll find some real bargains!
Do you know what I did to my ROTH IRA since Oct 2007? I increased it by 82%. Absolutely no joke. I just audited all the trades in that account this weekend, to calculate my YTD net appreciation. However, I do admit that is the account in which I place all my options trades, so I used extreme risk and leverage to get that gain. That account also only contains only 25% of my total portfolio (and no way did I manage to pull 82% across my entire portfolio – dream on)
IMPORTANT: the above advice (to make quick money on speculative bets in this market) assumes that your $4K or $5K is a SMALL percentage of your overall retirement portfolio. If it isn’t then you should probably just put it in a money market fund.
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