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October 13, 2006 at 12:58 PM #7732October 13, 2006 at 1:23 PM #378394plexownerParticipant
Here are the monthly payments on $400K at 6% fixed:
30 yrs – $2398.20
50 yrs – $2105.62
70 yrs – $2030.77
100 yrs – $2005.04I was surprised the first time I realized that extending the length of the loan doesn’t really change the fact that homes are unaffordable.
Even so, the Japanese were obtaining 100yr mortgages before their real estate market collapsed.
Imagine what your kids and grandkids will think of you when they are struggling to pay off that shit-box in Clairemont decades after you have passed on!
October 13, 2006 at 1:30 PM #37840CarlsbadlivingParticipantWow, I’m amazed at the small difference in monthly payments between a 30yr and 50yr fixed. Thinking about the amount of interest you’d pay over a 50 year period just about makes me sick.
October 13, 2006 at 1:37 PM #37841barnaby33ParticipantSoCalMtgGuy covered that pretty well on Another FB
Josh
October 13, 2006 at 1:54 PM #37842PerryChaseParticipantI wonder why so many Americans have mortgages. If the birthrate is just about the replacement rate, over time, there should be little need for new housing, except for new immigrants.
Are houses not passed on from one generation to the next? If that were the case, housing should represent a diminishing share of the economy.
October 13, 2006 at 2:07 PM #37843AnonymousGuestPerryChase – Ummmm….people have mortgages because they oftentimes want to move up into a bigger, better home. They have mortgages because they borrow against their equity to send their kids to college, add on to their house, etc. They have mortgages because they buy vacation homes and investment properties.
And no, they don’t always pass a house from one generation to the next.
Are you from around these parts??
October 13, 2006 at 2:23 PM #37845IONEGARMParticipantThe difference in payment is so small due to compounding, and the cost of the loan is extremely high.
I think there is a psychological barrier to a 50 yr mtg.
October 13, 2006 at 2:30 PM #37846lindismithParticipantPlus, they’re all counting on selling their houses to pay for care when they have to move into old-age homes!
Have you guys seen what it costs to put your parents in one of those?
October 13, 2006 at 2:31 PM #37847sdcellarParticipantYeah, I think somebody somewhere explained that an interest only loan is basically amortizing over an infinite period of time and 100 years is surprisingly close to the lowest amount you could pay on a monthly basis.
I ran the numbers for the example and the least you could pay if you wanted to do it over forever is $2000 bucks a month. That’s only a five dollar a month difference between 100 years and forever…
October 13, 2006 at 2:54 PM #37850VCJIMParticipantForever sounds like a reasonable time frame for paying off one’s home.
October 13, 2006 at 3:08 PM #37852DoofratParticipantTotal interest paid on the 30 year is $463,484
Total interest paid on the 50 year is $865,358The lower payment in the beginning of the 50 year is half of the problem, and the other half is the longer term of the loan. On the 50 year loan, the total interest for the last 20 years of the loan is $210,000, so in this example 50% of the problem is the lower payment alone, the other 50% being the longer term.
This is why those low and option payment loans are so bad.
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