$500 Monthly SDG&E Bill (How to reduce?)

[sdduuuude]

[quote=flu]Step three: cut the following wires: red, orange, yellow, green, blue,black, brown. If there are any other wires uncut, cut them too.

Step two: drive hammer into thermostat
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[quote=EconProf]Kudos to Poway_Seller for hanging in there and taking the abuse for being profligate. I predict you’ll soon give up though.[/quote]

HAHAHAHA. This thread just keeps on giving.

[air_ogi]

Prices of solar systems have come down a lot in the last 6 months and federal rebates are significantly higher.

You should be able to get 10,000W system with inverter, installation and maintenance for around $70,000.

California rebate is $2/per watt in most SDGE areas. Federal tax credit is 30%, no cap.

So your final cost should be somewhere around $35,000.

The system in Southern California should be able to produce around 13,000kWh per year, or enough to completely remove you from the top bracket and save you somewhere around $350 per month.

So your payback time would be 8.3 years. Panels should last around 25 years, so you would get 17 years of free electricity afterwards.

If you are in a high tax bracket and are able to finance this using a tax deductible loan, savings could be even higher.

Also, the calculation does not include any price increases by SDGE, like 8.2% increase they just passed for 2009.

[air_ogi]

Prices of solar systems have come down a lot in the last 6 months and federal rebates are significantly higher.

You should be able to get 10,000W system with inverter, installation and maintenance for around $70,000.

California rebate is $2/per watt in most SDGE areas. Federal tax credit is 30%, no cap.

So your final cost should be somewhere around $35,000.

The system in Southern California should be able to produce around 13,000kWh per year, or enough to completely remove you from the top bracket and save you somewhere around $350 per month.

So your payback time would be 8.3 years. Panels should last around 25 years, so you would get 17 years of free electricity afterwards.

If you are in a high tax bracket and are able to finance this using a tax deductible loan, savings could be even higher.

Also, the calculation does not include any price increases by SDGE, like 8.2% increase they just passed for 2009.

[air_ogi]

Prices of solar systems have come down a lot in the last 6 months and federal rebates are significantly higher.

You should be able to get 10,000W system with inverter, installation and maintenance for around $70,000.

California rebate is $2/per watt in most SDGE areas. Federal tax credit is 30%, no cap.

So your final cost should be somewhere around $35,000.

The system in Southern California should be able to produce around 13,000kWh per year, or enough to completely remove you from the top bracket and save you somewhere around $350 per month.

So your payback time would be 8.3 years. Panels should last around 25 years, so you would get 17 years of free electricity afterwards.

If you are in a high tax bracket and are able to finance this using a tax deductible loan, savings could be even higher.

Also, the calculation does not include any price increases by SDGE, like 8.2% increase they just passed for 2009.

[air_ogi]

Prices of solar systems have come down a lot in the last 6 months and federal rebates are significantly higher.

You should be able to get 10,000W system with inverter, installation and maintenance for around $70,000.

California rebate is $2/per watt in most SDGE areas. Federal tax credit is 30%, no cap.

So your final cost should be somewhere around $35,000.

The system in Southern California should be able to produce around 13,000kWh per year, or enough to completely remove you from the top bracket and save you somewhere around $350 per month.

So your payback time would be 8.3 years. Panels should last around 25 years, so you would get 17 years of free electricity afterwards.

If you are in a high tax bracket and are able to finance this using a tax deductible loan, savings could be even higher.

Also, the calculation does not include any price increases by SDGE, like 8.2% increase they just passed for 2009.

[air_ogi]

Prices of solar systems have come down a lot in the last 6 months and federal rebates are significantly higher.

You should be able to get 10,000W system with inverter, installation and maintenance for around $70,000.

California rebate is $2/per watt in most SDGE areas. Federal tax credit is 30%, no cap.

So your final cost should be somewhere around $35,000.

The system in Southern California should be able to produce around 13,000kWh per year, or enough to completely remove you from the top bracket and save you somewhere around $350 per month.

So your payback time would be 8.3 years. Panels should last around 25 years, so you would get 17 years of free electricity afterwards.

If you are in a high tax bracket and are able to finance this using a tax deductible loan, savings could be even higher.

Also, the calculation does not include any price increases by SDGE, like 8.2% increase they just passed for 2009.

[xironman]

If you are currently running dehumidifiers consider a heat pump water heater. I currently use one of these http://www.airgenerate.com/. You will remove the humidity and get hot water. I think also under the latest energy bill you get a $300 tax credit.

[xironman]

If you are currently running dehumidifiers consider a heat pump water heater. I currently use one of these http://www.airgenerate.com/. You will remove the humidity and get hot water. I think also under the latest energy bill you get a $300 tax credit.

[xironman]

If you are currently running dehumidifiers consider a heat pump water heater. I currently use one of these http://www.airgenerate.com/. You will remove the humidity and get hot water. I think also under the latest energy bill you get a $300 tax credit.

[xironman]

If you are currently running dehumidifiers consider a heat pump water heater. I currently use one of these http://www.airgenerate.com/. You will remove the humidity and get hot water. I think also under the latest energy bill you get a $300 tax credit.

[xironman]

If you are currently running dehumidifiers consider a heat pump water heater. I currently use one of these http://www.airgenerate.com/. You will remove the humidity and get hot water. I think also under the latest energy bill you get a $300 tax credit.

[LuckyInOC]

As a previous HVAC design engineer, you may want to do some of the following:

1. Use your Central Gas(?) furnace to keep the whole house at 68-73 deg. during 6am-11pm. Use the setback thermostat to 65 deg. at night. Use the Heat Pumps or other Resistance Heaters to heat the required rooms to 78 deg as required. This will use the gas as the main source (cheapest) to heat the majority of the house. The inefficient Heat Pumps will work better only to heat the additional 5 deg. The inefficient Heat Pumps are trying to heat the rest of the house even if they are in closed rooms. Inside walls are not usually insulated.

2. If you don’t have dual-pane windows, have them installed. My ’80s 2700 sf house had 27 single-pane windows. We replaced them with dual-pane low-e windows. We hardly use our Central HVAC now. We only turn on 1500w plug-in heaters in the rooms where occupied and use fans in the summer. I am thinking to put a whole house fan in this year. We don’t mind our house at 68 deg during winter and 78 deg during summer. We live in North OC where it get rarely above 90 deg.

Also, I heard they may be starting up a new show ‘The Real Housewives of San Diego’. Your wife sounds like a good candidate…

Lucky In OC

[LuckyInOC]

As a previous HVAC design engineer, you may want to do some of the following:

1. Use your Central Gas(?) furnace to keep the whole house at 68-73 deg. during 6am-11pm. Use the setback thermostat to 65 deg. at night. Use the Heat Pumps or other Resistance Heaters to heat the required rooms to 78 deg as required. This will use the gas as the main source (cheapest) to heat the majority of the house. The inefficient Heat Pumps will work better only to heat the additional 5 deg. The inefficient Heat Pumps are trying to heat the rest of the house even if they are in closed rooms. Inside walls are not usually insulated.

2. If you don’t have dual-pane windows, have them installed. My ’80s 2700 sf house had 27 single-pane windows. We replaced them with dual-pane low-e windows. We hardly use our Central HVAC now. We only turn on 1500w plug-in heaters in the rooms where occupied and use fans in the summer. I am thinking to put a whole house fan in this year. We don’t mind our house at 68 deg during winter and 78 deg during summer. We live in North OC where it get rarely above 90 deg.

Also, I heard they may be starting up a new show ‘The Real Housewives of San Diego’. Your wife sounds like a good candidate…

Lucky In OC

[LuckyInOC]

As a previous HVAC design engineer, you may want to do some of the following:

1. Use your Central Gas(?) furnace to keep the whole house at 68-73 deg. during 6am-11pm. Use the setback thermostat to 65 deg. at night. Use the Heat Pumps or other Resistance Heaters to heat the required rooms to 78 deg as required. This will use the gas as the main source (cheapest) to heat the majority of the house. The inefficient Heat Pumps will work better only to heat the additional 5 deg. The inefficient Heat Pumps are trying to heat the rest of the house even if they are in closed rooms. Inside walls are not usually insulated.

2. If you don’t have dual-pane windows, have them installed. My ’80s 2700 sf house had 27 single-pane windows. We replaced them with dual-pane low-e windows. We hardly use our Central HVAC now. We only turn on 1500w plug-in heaters in the rooms where occupied and use fans in the summer. I am thinking to put a whole house fan in this year. We don’t mind our house at 68 deg during winter and 78 deg during summer. We live in North OC where it get rarely above 90 deg.

Also, I heard they may be starting up a new show ‘The Real Housewives of San Diego’. Your wife sounds like a good candidate…

Lucky In OC

[LuckyInOC]

As a previous HVAC design engineer, you may want to do some of the following:

1. Use your Central Gas(?) furnace to keep the whole house at 68-73 deg. during 6am-11pm. Use the setback thermostat to 65 deg. at night. Use the Heat Pumps or other Resistance Heaters to heat the required rooms to 78 deg as required. This will use the gas as the main source (cheapest) to heat the majority of the house. The inefficient Heat Pumps will work better only to heat the additional 5 deg. The inefficient Heat Pumps are trying to heat the rest of the house even if they are in closed rooms. Inside walls are not usually insulated.

2. If you don’t have dual-pane windows, have them installed. My ’80s 2700 sf house had 27 single-pane windows. We replaced them with dual-pane low-e windows. We hardly use our Central HVAC now. We only turn on 1500w plug-in heaters in the rooms where occupied and use fans in the summer. I am thinking to put a whole house fan in this year. We don’t mind our house at 68 deg during winter and 78 deg during summer. We live in North OC where it get rarely above 90 deg.

Also, I heard they may be starting up a new show ‘The Real Housewives of San Diego’. Your wife sounds like a good candidate…

Lucky In OC

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