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February 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM #669223February 18, 2011 at 4:15 PM #668118bearishgurlParticipant
[quote=ssr123]Wow..thank you all for the information/suggestions. The reason for considering carmel valley or 4s Ranch is the proximity to one of our work places. I also looked at sorrento valley (not many houses) and university city (lots of condos and not many houses). . . [/quote]
ss123, there are thousands of single family homes in University City 92122 (UC), there is NO Mello-Roos there are few HOA’s encumbering single family residences (SFRs) there. In a previous post on this thread, UCGal told you of educational opportunities in UC. Her children are elementary school age. I will post 3 listings in your price range here.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110002745-2974_Renault_Pl_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110006187-5075_Via_Papel_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110009983-3296_Willard_St_San_Diego_CA_92122
Here’s the SDL to the current list of SFR listings in UC.
http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-University_City-Houses_For_Sale-92122
You’re welcome about the Mello-Roos. I believe potential buyers from out of town should always be aware of what their entire monthly obligation would be, including MR and HOA dues. Keep in mind that newer parts of Carmel Valley would have higher MR than the older parts. And the payoff schedule for the bonds lasts from 20-40 years (30+ in that area). If the property was built in 2003, for instance, then there would be 22+ years left on the payments. Do not automatically assume the amount of monthly MR shown on the online listing is correct. You should check it out for yourself here.
https://www.sdctreastax.com/ebpp3/%285mbsnv551yqju2i24yc5qmrv%29/Start.aspx
Put the address in including the suffix (st, rd, ave). Open the tax bill and study it for charges relating to a “CFD.” Add all those charges together and that is the total annual of bonds you would be expected to pay annually.
Besides the tax, you will see other charges on the bill related to the infrastructure and svcs inherent to that particular jurisdiction. ALL property owners in that jurisdiction have these items on their tax bills even if they live outside a CFD (i.e. train track maintenance, fire helicopter, trash pickup, voter-approved school construction bonds, flood control, extermination, etc).
If any Piggs have seen “MR” charges on tax bills that DO NOT indicate it is a “CFD” charge, please lend a hand here.
Also, check the homeowners association dues out with the assn itself BEFORE you make an offer and find out if any special assessments are on the horizon. Do NOT automatically assume the monthly dues shown on the listing are correct. In some cases, there could be more than one homeowner association that the property is encumbered by.
February 18, 2011 at 4:15 PM #668180bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ssr123]Wow..thank you all for the information/suggestions. The reason for considering carmel valley or 4s Ranch is the proximity to one of our work places. I also looked at sorrento valley (not many houses) and university city (lots of condos and not many houses). . . [/quote]
ss123, there are thousands of single family homes in University City 92122 (UC), there is NO Mello-Roos there are few HOA’s encumbering single family residences (SFRs) there. In a previous post on this thread, UCGal told you of educational opportunities in UC. Her children are elementary school age. I will post 3 listings in your price range here.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110002745-2974_Renault_Pl_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110006187-5075_Via_Papel_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110009983-3296_Willard_St_San_Diego_CA_92122
Here’s the SDL to the current list of SFR listings in UC.
http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-University_City-Houses_For_Sale-92122
You’re welcome about the Mello-Roos. I believe potential buyers from out of town should always be aware of what their entire monthly obligation would be, including MR and HOA dues. Keep in mind that newer parts of Carmel Valley would have higher MR than the older parts. And the payoff schedule for the bonds lasts from 20-40 years (30+ in that area). If the property was built in 2003, for instance, then there would be 22+ years left on the payments. Do not automatically assume the amount of monthly MR shown on the online listing is correct. You should check it out for yourself here.
https://www.sdctreastax.com/ebpp3/%285mbsnv551yqju2i24yc5qmrv%29/Start.aspx
Put the address in including the suffix (st, rd, ave). Open the tax bill and study it for charges relating to a “CFD.” Add all those charges together and that is the total annual of bonds you would be expected to pay annually.
Besides the tax, you will see other charges on the bill related to the infrastructure and svcs inherent to that particular jurisdiction. ALL property owners in that jurisdiction have these items on their tax bills even if they live outside a CFD (i.e. train track maintenance, fire helicopter, trash pickup, voter-approved school construction bonds, flood control, extermination, etc).
If any Piggs have seen “MR” charges on tax bills that DO NOT indicate it is a “CFD” charge, please lend a hand here.
Also, check the homeowners association dues out with the assn itself BEFORE you make an offer and find out if any special assessments are on the horizon. Do NOT automatically assume the monthly dues shown on the listing are correct. In some cases, there could be more than one homeowner association that the property is encumbered by.
February 18, 2011 at 4:15 PM #668786bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ssr123]Wow..thank you all for the information/suggestions. The reason for considering carmel valley or 4s Ranch is the proximity to one of our work places. I also looked at sorrento valley (not many houses) and university city (lots of condos and not many houses). . . [/quote]
ss123, there are thousands of single family homes in University City 92122 (UC), there is NO Mello-Roos there are few HOA’s encumbering single family residences (SFRs) there. In a previous post on this thread, UCGal told you of educational opportunities in UC. Her children are elementary school age. I will post 3 listings in your price range here.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110002745-2974_Renault_Pl_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110006187-5075_Via_Papel_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110009983-3296_Willard_St_San_Diego_CA_92122
Here’s the SDL to the current list of SFR listings in UC.
http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-University_City-Houses_For_Sale-92122
You’re welcome about the Mello-Roos. I believe potential buyers from out of town should always be aware of what their entire monthly obligation would be, including MR and HOA dues. Keep in mind that newer parts of Carmel Valley would have higher MR than the older parts. And the payoff schedule for the bonds lasts from 20-40 years (30+ in that area). If the property was built in 2003, for instance, then there would be 22+ years left on the payments. Do not automatically assume the amount of monthly MR shown on the online listing is correct. You should check it out for yourself here.
https://www.sdctreastax.com/ebpp3/%285mbsnv551yqju2i24yc5qmrv%29/Start.aspx
Put the address in including the suffix (st, rd, ave). Open the tax bill and study it for charges relating to a “CFD.” Add all those charges together and that is the total annual of bonds you would be expected to pay annually.
Besides the tax, you will see other charges on the bill related to the infrastructure and svcs inherent to that particular jurisdiction. ALL property owners in that jurisdiction have these items on their tax bills even if they live outside a CFD (i.e. train track maintenance, fire helicopter, trash pickup, voter-approved school construction bonds, flood control, extermination, etc).
If any Piggs have seen “MR” charges on tax bills that DO NOT indicate it is a “CFD” charge, please lend a hand here.
Also, check the homeowners association dues out with the assn itself BEFORE you make an offer and find out if any special assessments are on the horizon. Do NOT automatically assume the monthly dues shown on the listing are correct. In some cases, there could be more than one homeowner association that the property is encumbered by.
February 18, 2011 at 4:15 PM #668925bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ssr123]Wow..thank you all for the information/suggestions. The reason for considering carmel valley or 4s Ranch is the proximity to one of our work places. I also looked at sorrento valley (not many houses) and university city (lots of condos and not many houses). . . [/quote]
ss123, there are thousands of single family homes in University City 92122 (UC), there is NO Mello-Roos there are few HOA’s encumbering single family residences (SFRs) there. In a previous post on this thread, UCGal told you of educational opportunities in UC. Her children are elementary school age. I will post 3 listings in your price range here.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110002745-2974_Renault_Pl_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110006187-5075_Via_Papel_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110009983-3296_Willard_St_San_Diego_CA_92122
Here’s the SDL to the current list of SFR listings in UC.
http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-University_City-Houses_For_Sale-92122
You’re welcome about the Mello-Roos. I believe potential buyers from out of town should always be aware of what their entire monthly obligation would be, including MR and HOA dues. Keep in mind that newer parts of Carmel Valley would have higher MR than the older parts. And the payoff schedule for the bonds lasts from 20-40 years (30+ in that area). If the property was built in 2003, for instance, then there would be 22+ years left on the payments. Do not automatically assume the amount of monthly MR shown on the online listing is correct. You should check it out for yourself here.
https://www.sdctreastax.com/ebpp3/%285mbsnv551yqju2i24yc5qmrv%29/Start.aspx
Put the address in including the suffix (st, rd, ave). Open the tax bill and study it for charges relating to a “CFD.” Add all those charges together and that is the total annual of bonds you would be expected to pay annually.
Besides the tax, you will see other charges on the bill related to the infrastructure and svcs inherent to that particular jurisdiction. ALL property owners in that jurisdiction have these items on their tax bills even if they live outside a CFD (i.e. train track maintenance, fire helicopter, trash pickup, voter-approved school construction bonds, flood control, extermination, etc).
If any Piggs have seen “MR” charges on tax bills that DO NOT indicate it is a “CFD” charge, please lend a hand here.
Also, check the homeowners association dues out with the assn itself BEFORE you make an offer and find out if any special assessments are on the horizon. Do NOT automatically assume the monthly dues shown on the listing are correct. In some cases, there could be more than one homeowner association that the property is encumbered by.
February 18, 2011 at 4:15 PM #669268bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ssr123]Wow..thank you all for the information/suggestions. The reason for considering carmel valley or 4s Ranch is the proximity to one of our work places. I also looked at sorrento valley (not many houses) and university city (lots of condos and not many houses). . . [/quote]
ss123, there are thousands of single family homes in University City 92122 (UC), there is NO Mello-Roos there are few HOA’s encumbering single family residences (SFRs) there. In a previous post on this thread, UCGal told you of educational opportunities in UC. Her children are elementary school age. I will post 3 listings in your price range here.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110002745-2974_Renault_Pl_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110006187-5075_Via_Papel_San_Diego_CA_92122
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110009983-3296_Willard_St_San_Diego_CA_92122
Here’s the SDL to the current list of SFR listings in UC.
http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-University_City-Houses_For_Sale-92122
You’re welcome about the Mello-Roos. I believe potential buyers from out of town should always be aware of what their entire monthly obligation would be, including MR and HOA dues. Keep in mind that newer parts of Carmel Valley would have higher MR than the older parts. And the payoff schedule for the bonds lasts from 20-40 years (30+ in that area). If the property was built in 2003, for instance, then there would be 22+ years left on the payments. Do not automatically assume the amount of monthly MR shown on the online listing is correct. You should check it out for yourself here.
https://www.sdctreastax.com/ebpp3/%285mbsnv551yqju2i24yc5qmrv%29/Start.aspx
Put the address in including the suffix (st, rd, ave). Open the tax bill and study it for charges relating to a “CFD.” Add all those charges together and that is the total annual of bonds you would be expected to pay annually.
Besides the tax, you will see other charges on the bill related to the infrastructure and svcs inherent to that particular jurisdiction. ALL property owners in that jurisdiction have these items on their tax bills even if they live outside a CFD (i.e. train track maintenance, fire helicopter, trash pickup, voter-approved school construction bonds, flood control, extermination, etc).
If any Piggs have seen “MR” charges on tax bills that DO NOT indicate it is a “CFD” charge, please lend a hand here.
Also, check the homeowners association dues out with the assn itself BEFORE you make an offer and find out if any special assessments are on the horizon. Do NOT automatically assume the monthly dues shown on the listing are correct. In some cases, there could be more than one homeowner association that the property is encumbered by.
February 18, 2011 at 4:21 PM #668123CoronitaParticipant[quote=ssr123]
I was reading through past topics in the forum and someone had mentioned that part of carmel valley was built on sdge land and there are a lot of power lines and also a cell tower. Is this just in the southern part of carmel valley? Has there been any health issues? Just wondering why there are million dollar houses near a cell tower/power lines or maybe I am looking at a wrong area.[/quote]
Yes, I mentioned this….. This would be “Torrey Hills” (Formerly called Sorrento Hills)….
Well, the power lines are pretty much of a visual irritation, unless you happen to live in select complexes, in which case they are literally in your backyard (why oh why people would live in those complexes is beyond me)….That would be Sea Ridge, part of the Shores, part of La Strada, part of Coves(or Sands, I forget)….Part of the newer Pardee communities (Bridge Ridge and Carriage Run have a visual backyard view of the power lines, but they are really far away)…
As far as the the cell phone tower…It’s is located around Torrey Hills park. It’s not exactly close distance-wise, but because it’s tall, it looks, well let’s just say you can’t miss it….
Ironically, torrey hills elementary is right nearby….There has not been any proven data that these things lead to any health issues. So far there hasn’t been any indication also that kids are affected, at least not by the API scores coming out of Torrey Hills. In fact, maybe that’s why some kids are doing better…because some of there cells are mutating…Just kidding…
However, IF you really believe that cell phone radiation can lead to health issues, then start with not using a cell phone because you’re putting a device right next to your brain as you yap away…Your chances are getting some health issue would probably be greater from your phone than the cell signals you get from a tower that is high from the ground and also situated away (though visually, it looks close since it’s so tall)…The other thing is, just because you can’t see the cell phone tower doesn’t mean there isn’t one in your neighborhood… In areas where the cell phone station preceeds built homes, the tower stays as is. In the case where homes exist first, and carriers need to add new cells, they often conceal them in discrete packaging (such as fake building fascades, fake trees, etc).Oh, they are there, you just don’t know they are (unless you happen to work in the business and have been there down that installing these things).. There are plenty of microcell stations scateered all over the place. Anyway, if you happen to be a Qualcomm employee, you end up getting a much bigger dose of radiation working in the labs with these BTS/BSC’s blasting away while you work than you do living near a cell station, so several of the folks are already glowing by the time they get home…
The positive side is if you live in torrey hills, you rarely get a dropped call…. even with AT&T….ha ha…
February 18, 2011 at 4:21 PM #668185CoronitaParticipant[quote=ssr123]
I was reading through past topics in the forum and someone had mentioned that part of carmel valley was built on sdge land and there are a lot of power lines and also a cell tower. Is this just in the southern part of carmel valley? Has there been any health issues? Just wondering why there are million dollar houses near a cell tower/power lines or maybe I am looking at a wrong area.[/quote]
Yes, I mentioned this….. This would be “Torrey Hills” (Formerly called Sorrento Hills)….
Well, the power lines are pretty much of a visual irritation, unless you happen to live in select complexes, in which case they are literally in your backyard (why oh why people would live in those complexes is beyond me)….That would be Sea Ridge, part of the Shores, part of La Strada, part of Coves(or Sands, I forget)….Part of the newer Pardee communities (Bridge Ridge and Carriage Run have a visual backyard view of the power lines, but they are really far away)…
As far as the the cell phone tower…It’s is located around Torrey Hills park. It’s not exactly close distance-wise, but because it’s tall, it looks, well let’s just say you can’t miss it….
Ironically, torrey hills elementary is right nearby….There has not been any proven data that these things lead to any health issues. So far there hasn’t been any indication also that kids are affected, at least not by the API scores coming out of Torrey Hills. In fact, maybe that’s why some kids are doing better…because some of there cells are mutating…Just kidding…
However, IF you really believe that cell phone radiation can lead to health issues, then start with not using a cell phone because you’re putting a device right next to your brain as you yap away…Your chances are getting some health issue would probably be greater from your phone than the cell signals you get from a tower that is high from the ground and also situated away (though visually, it looks close since it’s so tall)…The other thing is, just because you can’t see the cell phone tower doesn’t mean there isn’t one in your neighborhood… In areas where the cell phone station preceeds built homes, the tower stays as is. In the case where homes exist first, and carriers need to add new cells, they often conceal them in discrete packaging (such as fake building fascades, fake trees, etc).Oh, they are there, you just don’t know they are (unless you happen to work in the business and have been there down that installing these things).. There are plenty of microcell stations scateered all over the place. Anyway, if you happen to be a Qualcomm employee, you end up getting a much bigger dose of radiation working in the labs with these BTS/BSC’s blasting away while you work than you do living near a cell station, so several of the folks are already glowing by the time they get home…
The positive side is if you live in torrey hills, you rarely get a dropped call…. even with AT&T….ha ha…
February 18, 2011 at 4:21 PM #668791CoronitaParticipant[quote=ssr123]
I was reading through past topics in the forum and someone had mentioned that part of carmel valley was built on sdge land and there are a lot of power lines and also a cell tower. Is this just in the southern part of carmel valley? Has there been any health issues? Just wondering why there are million dollar houses near a cell tower/power lines or maybe I am looking at a wrong area.[/quote]
Yes, I mentioned this….. This would be “Torrey Hills” (Formerly called Sorrento Hills)….
Well, the power lines are pretty much of a visual irritation, unless you happen to live in select complexes, in which case they are literally in your backyard (why oh why people would live in those complexes is beyond me)….That would be Sea Ridge, part of the Shores, part of La Strada, part of Coves(or Sands, I forget)….Part of the newer Pardee communities (Bridge Ridge and Carriage Run have a visual backyard view of the power lines, but they are really far away)…
As far as the the cell phone tower…It’s is located around Torrey Hills park. It’s not exactly close distance-wise, but because it’s tall, it looks, well let’s just say you can’t miss it….
Ironically, torrey hills elementary is right nearby….There has not been any proven data that these things lead to any health issues. So far there hasn’t been any indication also that kids are affected, at least not by the API scores coming out of Torrey Hills. In fact, maybe that’s why some kids are doing better…because some of there cells are mutating…Just kidding…
However, IF you really believe that cell phone radiation can lead to health issues, then start with not using a cell phone because you’re putting a device right next to your brain as you yap away…Your chances are getting some health issue would probably be greater from your phone than the cell signals you get from a tower that is high from the ground and also situated away (though visually, it looks close since it’s so tall)…The other thing is, just because you can’t see the cell phone tower doesn’t mean there isn’t one in your neighborhood… In areas where the cell phone station preceeds built homes, the tower stays as is. In the case where homes exist first, and carriers need to add new cells, they often conceal them in discrete packaging (such as fake building fascades, fake trees, etc).Oh, they are there, you just don’t know they are (unless you happen to work in the business and have been there down that installing these things).. There are plenty of microcell stations scateered all over the place. Anyway, if you happen to be a Qualcomm employee, you end up getting a much bigger dose of radiation working in the labs with these BTS/BSC’s blasting away while you work than you do living near a cell station, so several of the folks are already glowing by the time they get home…
The positive side is if you live in torrey hills, you rarely get a dropped call…. even with AT&T….ha ha…
February 18, 2011 at 4:21 PM #668930CoronitaParticipant[quote=ssr123]
I was reading through past topics in the forum and someone had mentioned that part of carmel valley was built on sdge land and there are a lot of power lines and also a cell tower. Is this just in the southern part of carmel valley? Has there been any health issues? Just wondering why there are million dollar houses near a cell tower/power lines or maybe I am looking at a wrong area.[/quote]
Yes, I mentioned this….. This would be “Torrey Hills” (Formerly called Sorrento Hills)….
Well, the power lines are pretty much of a visual irritation, unless you happen to live in select complexes, in which case they are literally in your backyard (why oh why people would live in those complexes is beyond me)….That would be Sea Ridge, part of the Shores, part of La Strada, part of Coves(or Sands, I forget)….Part of the newer Pardee communities (Bridge Ridge and Carriage Run have a visual backyard view of the power lines, but they are really far away)…
As far as the the cell phone tower…It’s is located around Torrey Hills park. It’s not exactly close distance-wise, but because it’s tall, it looks, well let’s just say you can’t miss it….
Ironically, torrey hills elementary is right nearby….There has not been any proven data that these things lead to any health issues. So far there hasn’t been any indication also that kids are affected, at least not by the API scores coming out of Torrey Hills. In fact, maybe that’s why some kids are doing better…because some of there cells are mutating…Just kidding…
However, IF you really believe that cell phone radiation can lead to health issues, then start with not using a cell phone because you’re putting a device right next to your brain as you yap away…Your chances are getting some health issue would probably be greater from your phone than the cell signals you get from a tower that is high from the ground and also situated away (though visually, it looks close since it’s so tall)…The other thing is, just because you can’t see the cell phone tower doesn’t mean there isn’t one in your neighborhood… In areas where the cell phone station preceeds built homes, the tower stays as is. In the case where homes exist first, and carriers need to add new cells, they often conceal them in discrete packaging (such as fake building fascades, fake trees, etc).Oh, they are there, you just don’t know they are (unless you happen to work in the business and have been there down that installing these things).. There are plenty of microcell stations scateered all over the place. Anyway, if you happen to be a Qualcomm employee, you end up getting a much bigger dose of radiation working in the labs with these BTS/BSC’s blasting away while you work than you do living near a cell station, so several of the folks are already glowing by the time they get home…
The positive side is if you live in torrey hills, you rarely get a dropped call…. even with AT&T….ha ha…
February 18, 2011 at 4:21 PM #669273CoronitaParticipant[quote=ssr123]
I was reading through past topics in the forum and someone had mentioned that part of carmel valley was built on sdge land and there are a lot of power lines and also a cell tower. Is this just in the southern part of carmel valley? Has there been any health issues? Just wondering why there are million dollar houses near a cell tower/power lines or maybe I am looking at a wrong area.[/quote]
Yes, I mentioned this….. This would be “Torrey Hills” (Formerly called Sorrento Hills)….
Well, the power lines are pretty much of a visual irritation, unless you happen to live in select complexes, in which case they are literally in your backyard (why oh why people would live in those complexes is beyond me)….That would be Sea Ridge, part of the Shores, part of La Strada, part of Coves(or Sands, I forget)….Part of the newer Pardee communities (Bridge Ridge and Carriage Run have a visual backyard view of the power lines, but they are really far away)…
As far as the the cell phone tower…It’s is located around Torrey Hills park. It’s not exactly close distance-wise, but because it’s tall, it looks, well let’s just say you can’t miss it….
Ironically, torrey hills elementary is right nearby….There has not been any proven data that these things lead to any health issues. So far there hasn’t been any indication also that kids are affected, at least not by the API scores coming out of Torrey Hills. In fact, maybe that’s why some kids are doing better…because some of there cells are mutating…Just kidding…
However, IF you really believe that cell phone radiation can lead to health issues, then start with not using a cell phone because you’re putting a device right next to your brain as you yap away…Your chances are getting some health issue would probably be greater from your phone than the cell signals you get from a tower that is high from the ground and also situated away (though visually, it looks close since it’s so tall)…The other thing is, just because you can’t see the cell phone tower doesn’t mean there isn’t one in your neighborhood… In areas where the cell phone station preceeds built homes, the tower stays as is. In the case where homes exist first, and carriers need to add new cells, they often conceal them in discrete packaging (such as fake building fascades, fake trees, etc).Oh, they are there, you just don’t know they are (unless you happen to work in the business and have been there down that installing these things).. There are plenty of microcell stations scateered all over the place. Anyway, if you happen to be a Qualcomm employee, you end up getting a much bigger dose of radiation working in the labs with these BTS/BSC’s blasting away while you work than you do living near a cell station, so several of the folks are already glowing by the time they get home…
The positive side is if you live in torrey hills, you rarely get a dropped call…. even with AT&T….ha ha…
February 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM #668188sdrealtorParticipantBY all means check out UC. But did I just not finish debunking the BG myth that newer CV has higher MR. Thjat simply is a grossly inaccurate statement.
February 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM #668249sdrealtorParticipantBY all means check out UC. But did I just not finish debunking the BG myth that newer CV has higher MR. Thjat simply is a grossly inaccurate statement.
February 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM #668856sdrealtorParticipantBY all means check out UC. But did I just not finish debunking the BG myth that newer CV has higher MR. Thjat simply is a grossly inaccurate statement.
February 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM #668995sdrealtorParticipantBY all means check out UC. But did I just not finish debunking the BG myth that newer CV has higher MR. Thjat simply is a grossly inaccurate statement.
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