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February 18, 2011 at 7:05 AM #668978February 18, 2011 at 7:37 AM #667833
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ParticipantRhett said: “I know people that live on Winstanley Way (which is north of Del Mar Heights) that have kids attending Ashley Falls, which is Del Mar Union. I think that anything east of Torrey Pines High is Del Mar Union, even if it is north of Del Mar Heights.”
I don’t know how this is the case, but they must have received an exception or transfer into DMUSD (which is extremely difficult to do these days) because Winstanley Way is north of Del Mar Heights Rd and is therefore NOT in the DMUSD district (boundary map found here: http://locator.decisioninsite.com/Default.aspx?StudyID=45346), but is in Solana Beach district (district boundary map found here: http://www.sbsd.k12.ca.us/District/Facilities/Attend04.jpg.
If you zoom in on either map, you’ll see that the DMUSD district truly DOES NOT extend north of Del Mar Heights Road (once you’re east of the I-5), as I stated before. I hate to keep pressing the issue, but I just want to make sure the OP doesn’t get further confused. It’s simple enough to just go to the source (the boundary maps on each district’s website) to confirm.
As you can also see from the maps, some of the streets behind the Highlands shopping center (even though they’re south of DM Heights Rd) are also outside of DMUSD, and those kids attend Solana Pacific (the Solana Beach district school that’s next to the Carmel Valley library) or Carmel Creek (another SB district elementary school that’s smack in the middle of Carmel Valley). In addition, residents of Pacific Highlands Ranch (EDIT: the NEWER section of Pacific Highlands Ranch), Fairbanks Ranch and other developments in the northeast part, basically bordering on Rancho Penasquitos, also attend Solana Beach school district, not San Diego Unified.
The boundaries seem very random now but maybe made sense at some time (probably before Carmel Valley was built up). In any case, these boundaries are clearly tricky for anyone to know, but must be even more bizarre for a newcomer, who may not even know to ask.
As flu mentioned, both Solana Beach elementary school district and DMUSD are equally excellent, and once 7th grade rolls around, they’re all in the same middle/high school district so for most people, it’s probably not an issue. But, if someone has their heart set on sending a kid to DMUSD, it would be a shocker if they bought a house in Carmel Valley and then realized their kids would go to the Solana Beach district for elementary school.
February 18, 2011 at 7:37 AM #667894ParticipantRhett said: “I know people that live on Winstanley Way (which is north of Del Mar Heights) that have kids attending Ashley Falls, which is Del Mar Union. I think that anything east of Torrey Pines High is Del Mar Union, even if it is north of Del Mar Heights.”
I don’t know how this is the case, but they must have received an exception or transfer into DMUSD (which is extremely difficult to do these days) because Winstanley Way is north of Del Mar Heights Rd and is therefore NOT in the DMUSD district (boundary map found here: http://locator.decisioninsite.com/Default.aspx?StudyID=45346), but is in Solana Beach district (district boundary map found here: http://www.sbsd.k12.ca.us/District/Facilities/Attend04.jpg.
If you zoom in on either map, you’ll see that the DMUSD district truly DOES NOT extend north of Del Mar Heights Road (once you’re east of the I-5), as I stated before. I hate to keep pressing the issue, but I just want to make sure the OP doesn’t get further confused. It’s simple enough to just go to the source (the boundary maps on each district’s website) to confirm.
As you can also see from the maps, some of the streets behind the Highlands shopping center (even though they’re south of DM Heights Rd) are also outside of DMUSD, and those kids attend Solana Pacific (the Solana Beach district school that’s next to the Carmel Valley library) or Carmel Creek (another SB district elementary school that’s smack in the middle of Carmel Valley). In addition, residents of Pacific Highlands Ranch (EDIT: the NEWER section of Pacific Highlands Ranch), Fairbanks Ranch and other developments in the northeast part, basically bordering on Rancho Penasquitos, also attend Solana Beach school district, not San Diego Unified.
The boundaries seem very random now but maybe made sense at some time (probably before Carmel Valley was built up). In any case, these boundaries are clearly tricky for anyone to know, but must be even more bizarre for a newcomer, who may not even know to ask.
As flu mentioned, both Solana Beach elementary school district and DMUSD are equally excellent, and once 7th grade rolls around, they’re all in the same middle/high school district so for most people, it’s probably not an issue. But, if someone has their heart set on sending a kid to DMUSD, it would be a shocker if they bought a house in Carmel Valley and then realized their kids would go to the Solana Beach district for elementary school.
February 18, 2011 at 7:37 AM #668501ParticipantRhett said: “I know people that live on Winstanley Way (which is north of Del Mar Heights) that have kids attending Ashley Falls, which is Del Mar Union. I think that anything east of Torrey Pines High is Del Mar Union, even if it is north of Del Mar Heights.”
I don’t know how this is the case, but they must have received an exception or transfer into DMUSD (which is extremely difficult to do these days) because Winstanley Way is north of Del Mar Heights Rd and is therefore NOT in the DMUSD district (boundary map found here: http://locator.decisioninsite.com/Default.aspx?StudyID=45346), but is in Solana Beach district (district boundary map found here: http://www.sbsd.k12.ca.us/District/Facilities/Attend04.jpg.
If you zoom in on either map, you’ll see that the DMUSD district truly DOES NOT extend north of Del Mar Heights Road (once you’re east of the I-5), as I stated before. I hate to keep pressing the issue, but I just want to make sure the OP doesn’t get further confused. It’s simple enough to just go to the source (the boundary maps on each district’s website) to confirm.
As you can also see from the maps, some of the streets behind the Highlands shopping center (even though they’re south of DM Heights Rd) are also outside of DMUSD, and those kids attend Solana Pacific (the Solana Beach district school that’s next to the Carmel Valley library) or Carmel Creek (another SB district elementary school that’s smack in the middle of Carmel Valley). In addition, residents of Pacific Highlands Ranch (EDIT: the NEWER section of Pacific Highlands Ranch), Fairbanks Ranch and other developments in the northeast part, basically bordering on Rancho Penasquitos, also attend Solana Beach school district, not San Diego Unified.
The boundaries seem very random now but maybe made sense at some time (probably before Carmel Valley was built up). In any case, these boundaries are clearly tricky for anyone to know, but must be even more bizarre for a newcomer, who may not even know to ask.
As flu mentioned, both Solana Beach elementary school district and DMUSD are equally excellent, and once 7th grade rolls around, they’re all in the same middle/high school district so for most people, it’s probably not an issue. But, if someone has their heart set on sending a kid to DMUSD, it would be a shocker if they bought a house in Carmel Valley and then realized their kids would go to the Solana Beach district for elementary school.
February 18, 2011 at 7:37 AM #668640ParticipantRhett said: “I know people that live on Winstanley Way (which is north of Del Mar Heights) that have kids attending Ashley Falls, which is Del Mar Union. I think that anything east of Torrey Pines High is Del Mar Union, even if it is north of Del Mar Heights.”
I don’t know how this is the case, but they must have received an exception or transfer into DMUSD (which is extremely difficult to do these days) because Winstanley Way is north of Del Mar Heights Rd and is therefore NOT in the DMUSD district (boundary map found here: http://locator.decisioninsite.com/Default.aspx?StudyID=45346), but is in Solana Beach district (district boundary map found here: http://www.sbsd.k12.ca.us/District/Facilities/Attend04.jpg.
If you zoom in on either map, you’ll see that the DMUSD district truly DOES NOT extend north of Del Mar Heights Road (once you’re east of the I-5), as I stated before. I hate to keep pressing the issue, but I just want to make sure the OP doesn’t get further confused. It’s simple enough to just go to the source (the boundary maps on each district’s website) to confirm.
As you can also see from the maps, some of the streets behind the Highlands shopping center (even though they’re south of DM Heights Rd) are also outside of DMUSD, and those kids attend Solana Pacific (the Solana Beach district school that’s next to the Carmel Valley library) or Carmel Creek (another SB district elementary school that’s smack in the middle of Carmel Valley). In addition, residents of Pacific Highlands Ranch (EDIT: the NEWER section of Pacific Highlands Ranch), Fairbanks Ranch and other developments in the northeast part, basically bordering on Rancho Penasquitos, also attend Solana Beach school district, not San Diego Unified.
The boundaries seem very random now but maybe made sense at some time (probably before Carmel Valley was built up). In any case, these boundaries are clearly tricky for anyone to know, but must be even more bizarre for a newcomer, who may not even know to ask.
As flu mentioned, both Solana Beach elementary school district and DMUSD are equally excellent, and once 7th grade rolls around, they’re all in the same middle/high school district so for most people, it’s probably not an issue. But, if someone has their heart set on sending a kid to DMUSD, it would be a shocker if they bought a house in Carmel Valley and then realized their kids would go to the Solana Beach district for elementary school.
February 18, 2011 at 7:37 AM #668983ParticipantRhett said: “I know people that live on Winstanley Way (which is north of Del Mar Heights) that have kids attending Ashley Falls, which is Del Mar Union. I think that anything east of Torrey Pines High is Del Mar Union, even if it is north of Del Mar Heights.”
I don’t know how this is the case, but they must have received an exception or transfer into DMUSD (which is extremely difficult to do these days) because Winstanley Way is north of Del Mar Heights Rd and is therefore NOT in the DMUSD district (boundary map found here: http://locator.decisioninsite.com/Default.aspx?StudyID=45346), but is in Solana Beach district (district boundary map found here: http://www.sbsd.k12.ca.us/District/Facilities/Attend04.jpg.
If you zoom in on either map, you’ll see that the DMUSD district truly DOES NOT extend north of Del Mar Heights Road (once you’re east of the I-5), as I stated before. I hate to keep pressing the issue, but I just want to make sure the OP doesn’t get further confused. It’s simple enough to just go to the source (the boundary maps on each district’s website) to confirm.
As you can also see from the maps, some of the streets behind the Highlands shopping center (even though they’re south of DM Heights Rd) are also outside of DMUSD, and those kids attend Solana Pacific (the Solana Beach district school that’s next to the Carmel Valley library) or Carmel Creek (another SB district elementary school that’s smack in the middle of Carmel Valley). In addition, residents of Pacific Highlands Ranch (EDIT: the NEWER section of Pacific Highlands Ranch), Fairbanks Ranch and other developments in the northeast part, basically bordering on Rancho Penasquitos, also attend Solana Beach school district, not San Diego Unified.
The boundaries seem very random now but maybe made sense at some time (probably before Carmel Valley was built up). In any case, these boundaries are clearly tricky for anyone to know, but must be even more bizarre for a newcomer, who may not even know to ask.
As flu mentioned, both Solana Beach elementary school district and DMUSD are equally excellent, and once 7th grade rolls around, they’re all in the same middle/high school district so for most people, it’s probably not an issue. But, if someone has their heart set on sending a kid to DMUSD, it would be a shocker if they bought a house in Carmel Valley and then realized their kids would go to the Solana Beach district for elementary school.
February 18, 2011 at 7:51 AM #667849all
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=sdrealtor]4S Ranch (92127) tends to have much higher Mello Roos…[/quote]
By “higher,” would you say 5K per year on a 700K property? More?? How long is remaining on the bonds of a 5-yr old property? 25 yrs? 35 yrs??
What about the HOA dues in the various subdivisions in 4S that are in the OP’s price range?
How much are HOA dues in the subdivisions within CV’s impacted elem school attendance area (in addition to MR)?
Can any Piggs help out here?[/quote]
The houses south of Camino Del Norte built in 2001-2003 have MR of about $250/month (the actual Mello-Roos is $200, the rest are other fees). Those are not on the market as often as the 2004+ stock since they rent for much more than what the monthly payment is.
There should be ~20 years left on the bond.
HOA is $85/month. Went up $5/month this year, but now we have a gate around our ‘splash’ park to keep the furriners out.
February 18, 2011 at 7:51 AM #667909Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=sdrealtor]4S Ranch (92127) tends to have much higher Mello Roos…[/quote]
By “higher,” would you say 5K per year on a 700K property? More?? How long is remaining on the bonds of a 5-yr old property? 25 yrs? 35 yrs??
What about the HOA dues in the various subdivisions in 4S that are in the OP’s price range?
How much are HOA dues in the subdivisions within CV’s impacted elem school attendance area (in addition to MR)?
Can any Piggs help out here?[/quote]
The houses south of Camino Del Norte built in 2001-2003 have MR of about $250/month (the actual Mello-Roos is $200, the rest are other fees). Those are not on the market as often as the 2004+ stock since they rent for much more than what the monthly payment is.
There should be ~20 years left on the bond.
HOA is $85/month. Went up $5/month this year, but now we have a gate around our ‘splash’ park to keep the furriners out.
February 18, 2011 at 7:51 AM #668516Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=sdrealtor]4S Ranch (92127) tends to have much higher Mello Roos…[/quote]
By “higher,” would you say 5K per year on a 700K property? More?? How long is remaining on the bonds of a 5-yr old property? 25 yrs? 35 yrs??
What about the HOA dues in the various subdivisions in 4S that are in the OP’s price range?
How much are HOA dues in the subdivisions within CV’s impacted elem school attendance area (in addition to MR)?
Can any Piggs help out here?[/quote]
The houses south of Camino Del Norte built in 2001-2003 have MR of about $250/month (the actual Mello-Roos is $200, the rest are other fees). Those are not on the market as often as the 2004+ stock since they rent for much more than what the monthly payment is.
There should be ~20 years left on the bond.
HOA is $85/month. Went up $5/month this year, but now we have a gate around our ‘splash’ park to keep the furriners out.
February 18, 2011 at 7:51 AM #668655Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=sdrealtor]4S Ranch (92127) tends to have much higher Mello Roos…[/quote]
By “higher,” would you say 5K per year on a 700K property? More?? How long is remaining on the bonds of a 5-yr old property? 25 yrs? 35 yrs??
What about the HOA dues in the various subdivisions in 4S that are in the OP’s price range?
How much are HOA dues in the subdivisions within CV’s impacted elem school attendance area (in addition to MR)?
Can any Piggs help out here?[/quote]
The houses south of Camino Del Norte built in 2001-2003 have MR of about $250/month (the actual Mello-Roos is $200, the rest are other fees). Those are not on the market as often as the 2004+ stock since they rent for much more than what the monthly payment is.
There should be ~20 years left on the bond.
HOA is $85/month. Went up $5/month this year, but now we have a gate around our ‘splash’ park to keep the furriners out.
February 18, 2011 at 7:51 AM #668998Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=sdrealtor]4S Ranch (92127) tends to have much higher Mello Roos…[/quote]
By “higher,” would you say 5K per year on a 700K property? More?? How long is remaining on the bonds of a 5-yr old property? 25 yrs? 35 yrs??
What about the HOA dues in the various subdivisions in 4S that are in the OP’s price range?
How much are HOA dues in the subdivisions within CV’s impacted elem school attendance area (in addition to MR)?
Can any Piggs help out here?[/quote]
The houses south of Camino Del Norte built in 2001-2003 have MR of about $250/month (the actual Mello-Roos is $200, the rest are other fees). Those are not on the market as often as the 2004+ stock since they rent for much more than what the monthly payment is.
There should be ~20 years left on the bond.
HOA is $85/month. Went up $5/month this year, but now we have a gate around our ‘splash’ park to keep the furriners out.
February 18, 2011 at 9:01 AM #667888ParticipantI have no first hand experience with CV schools. A guy I know who lives in CV put his kid in Cathedral because he did not like the level of attention (low) given to the athletics and ‘average’ kids in the kid’s public school. So that’s probably a positive for you.
My experience with Poway Unified is that things differ between schools and between teachers. I’m more satisfied with Stone Ranch in 4S than I was with Highland Ranch or Shoal Creek in Carmel Mountain. The curriculum (at least Math & Science) for the first grade is borderline trivial and pretty much all the kids can perfect the tests. All but two kids in my kid’s class did 25/25 on a recent test. The other two kids were 24/25. So the teachers probably have some freedom in choosing the materials. My daughter’s teacher uses several resources that are more challenging than the standard Math Expression edition. She uses Evan-Moor’s Daily Word Problems and that is more serious than pattern completion and bean counting covered by the Math Expression books. (e.g. “how tall would two and a half monkeys be if a monkey is 6 feet tall” – not trivial for a 1st grader in October)
I know that at least one other teacher is using the same material. I also know that at least one teacher does not.
There is GATE and all the kids in the school have access to Compass Learning. For the 1st grade the use is optional and they are not graded on that, for the older kids it’s mandatory.
They are doing the Science Fair this year, for the first time, and they seem to be taking it very serious (I was frustrated with Highland Ranch experience where my daughter’s kindergarten teacher did not even show up for the Fair).
My kid is an advanced reader/writer. She turned 7 a month ago and she read all 5000+ pages of Harry Potter books and she memorized all the spells (she also taught her 3 years younger brother some). According to the teacher she is at or near the top of the class. She’s ok with math – she can solve linear equations with integers (including negative), do word problems and she knows what the sum of interior angles in triangle is, in degrees (she’s not really getting the radians). According to the teacher she is near, but not at the top of her class. As the national champion in mathematics through my entire middle/high school I was slightly upset to hear that, but at the same time I was pleased by the fact that she is being challenged.
She plays chess and she can strategize, but her game is not breathtaking.
I don’t think she is gifted at a news-worthy level. I attribute much of her success to the work my wife does with our kids. Having three kids kind of helps to lower expectations – there just isn’t enough time to promote all three of them to sainthood 🙂
Overall I am satisfied with the school. My biggest frustration is that they do math after lunch, at the end of the day. This semester the after school tennis classes were canceled due to lack of interest, but science and chess aren’t. That tells you something about priorities of the parents.
February 18, 2011 at 9:01 AM #667949ParticipantI have no first hand experience with CV schools. A guy I know who lives in CV put his kid in Cathedral because he did not like the level of attention (low) given to the athletics and ‘average’ kids in the kid’s public school. So that’s probably a positive for you.
My experience with Poway Unified is that things differ between schools and between teachers. I’m more satisfied with Stone Ranch in 4S than I was with Highland Ranch or Shoal Creek in Carmel Mountain. The curriculum (at least Math & Science) for the first grade is borderline trivial and pretty much all the kids can perfect the tests. All but two kids in my kid’s class did 25/25 on a recent test. The other two kids were 24/25. So the teachers probably have some freedom in choosing the materials. My daughter’s teacher uses several resources that are more challenging than the standard Math Expression edition. She uses Evan-Moor’s Daily Word Problems and that is more serious than pattern completion and bean counting covered by the Math Expression books. (e.g. “how tall would two and a half monkeys be if a monkey is 6 feet tall” – not trivial for a 1st grader in October)
I know that at least one other teacher is using the same material. I also know that at least one teacher does not.
There is GATE and all the kids in the school have access to Compass Learning. For the 1st grade the use is optional and they are not graded on that, for the older kids it’s mandatory.
They are doing the Science Fair this year, for the first time, and they seem to be taking it very serious (I was frustrated with Highland Ranch experience where my daughter’s kindergarten teacher did not even show up for the Fair).
My kid is an advanced reader/writer. She turned 7 a month ago and she read all 5000+ pages of Harry Potter books and she memorized all the spells (she also taught her 3 years younger brother some). According to the teacher she is at or near the top of the class. She’s ok with math – she can solve linear equations with integers (including negative), do word problems and she knows what the sum of interior angles in triangle is, in degrees (she’s not really getting the radians). According to the teacher she is near, but not at the top of her class. As the national champion in mathematics through my entire middle/high school I was slightly upset to hear that, but at the same time I was pleased by the fact that she is being challenged.
She plays chess and she can strategize, but her game is not breathtaking.
I don’t think she is gifted at a news-worthy level. I attribute much of her success to the work my wife does with our kids. Having three kids kind of helps to lower expectations – there just isn’t enough time to promote all three of them to sainthood 🙂
Overall I am satisfied with the school. My biggest frustration is that they do math after lunch, at the end of the day. This semester the after school tennis classes were canceled due to lack of interest, but science and chess aren’t. That tells you something about priorities of the parents.
February 18, 2011 at 9:01 AM #668556ParticipantI have no first hand experience with CV schools. A guy I know who lives in CV put his kid in Cathedral because he did not like the level of attention (low) given to the athletics and ‘average’ kids in the kid’s public school. So that’s probably a positive for you.
My experience with Poway Unified is that things differ between schools and between teachers. I’m more satisfied with Stone Ranch in 4S than I was with Highland Ranch or Shoal Creek in Carmel Mountain. The curriculum (at least Math & Science) for the first grade is borderline trivial and pretty much all the kids can perfect the tests. All but two kids in my kid’s class did 25/25 on a recent test. The other two kids were 24/25. So the teachers probably have some freedom in choosing the materials. My daughter’s teacher uses several resources that are more challenging than the standard Math Expression edition. She uses Evan-Moor’s Daily Word Problems and that is more serious than pattern completion and bean counting covered by the Math Expression books. (e.g. “how tall would two and a half monkeys be if a monkey is 6 feet tall” – not trivial for a 1st grader in October)
I know that at least one other teacher is using the same material. I also know that at least one teacher does not.
There is GATE and all the kids in the school have access to Compass Learning. For the 1st grade the use is optional and they are not graded on that, for the older kids it’s mandatory.
They are doing the Science Fair this year, for the first time, and they seem to be taking it very serious (I was frustrated with Highland Ranch experience where my daughter’s kindergarten teacher did not even show up for the Fair).
My kid is an advanced reader/writer. She turned 7 a month ago and she read all 5000+ pages of Harry Potter books and she memorized all the spells (she also taught her 3 years younger brother some). According to the teacher she is at or near the top of the class. She’s ok with math – she can solve linear equations with integers (including negative), do word problems and she knows what the sum of interior angles in triangle is, in degrees (she’s not really getting the radians). According to the teacher she is near, but not at the top of her class. As the national champion in mathematics through my entire middle/high school I was slightly upset to hear that, but at the same time I was pleased by the fact that she is being challenged.
She plays chess and she can strategize, but her game is not breathtaking.
I don’t think she is gifted at a news-worthy level. I attribute much of her success to the work my wife does with our kids. Having three kids kind of helps to lower expectations – there just isn’t enough time to promote all three of them to sainthood 🙂
Overall I am satisfied with the school. My biggest frustration is that they do math after lunch, at the end of the day. This semester the after school tennis classes were canceled due to lack of interest, but science and chess aren’t. That tells you something about priorities of the parents.
February 18, 2011 at 9:01 AM #668695ParticipantI have no first hand experience with CV schools. A guy I know who lives in CV put his kid in Cathedral because he did not like the level of attention (low) given to the athletics and ‘average’ kids in the kid’s public school. So that’s probably a positive for you.
My experience with Poway Unified is that things differ between schools and between teachers. I’m more satisfied with Stone Ranch in 4S than I was with Highland Ranch or Shoal Creek in Carmel Mountain. The curriculum (at least Math & Science) for the first grade is borderline trivial and pretty much all the kids can perfect the tests. All but two kids in my kid’s class did 25/25 on a recent test. The other two kids were 24/25. So the teachers probably have some freedom in choosing the materials. My daughter’s teacher uses several resources that are more challenging than the standard Math Expression edition. She uses Evan-Moor’s Daily Word Problems and that is more serious than pattern completion and bean counting covered by the Math Expression books. (e.g. “how tall would two and a half monkeys be if a monkey is 6 feet tall” – not trivial for a 1st grader in October)
I know that at least one other teacher is using the same material. I also know that at least one teacher does not.
There is GATE and all the kids in the school have access to Compass Learning. For the 1st grade the use is optional and they are not graded on that, for the older kids it’s mandatory.
They are doing the Science Fair this year, for the first time, and they seem to be taking it very serious (I was frustrated with Highland Ranch experience where my daughter’s kindergarten teacher did not even show up for the Fair).
My kid is an advanced reader/writer. She turned 7 a month ago and she read all 5000+ pages of Harry Potter books and she memorized all the spells (she also taught her 3 years younger brother some). According to the teacher she is at or near the top of the class. She’s ok with math – she can solve linear equations with integers (including negative), do word problems and she knows what the sum of interior angles in triangle is, in degrees (she’s not really getting the radians). According to the teacher she is near, but not at the top of her class. As the national champion in mathematics through my entire middle/high school I was slightly upset to hear that, but at the same time I was pleased by the fact that she is being challenged.
She plays chess and she can strategize, but her game is not breathtaking.
I don’t think she is gifted at a news-worthy level. I attribute much of her success to the work my wife does with our kids. Having three kids kind of helps to lower expectations – there just isn’t enough time to promote all three of them to sainthood 🙂
Overall I am satisfied with the school. My biggest frustration is that they do math after lunch, at the end of the day. This semester the after school tennis classes were canceled due to lack of interest, but science and chess aren’t. That tells you something about priorities of the parents.
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