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December 12, 2007 at 2:36 PM #115417December 12, 2007 at 3:55 PM #115275NotCrankyParticipant
“construction stops entirely”
kewp this is not what happens at all. Contruction slows. Most everyone involved gets a smaller piece of the pie.Some don’t miss a beat. It is not like most 9-5’s where the gig is on or off. People have to compete a little more on price maybe take on jobs they didn’t normally do.People shuffle around a bit.Some leave for greener pastures. There usually has to be some precautionary or mandatory belt tightenting. Those who didn’t prepare may lose a car or a house, some will file bankrutcy, but life goes on and construction goes along at a liveable clip through a recession, at least the one’s we have had in my adult life. I think Rich’s charts, on the topic of levels of employment,when he posts them, support that too.
December 12, 2007 at 3:55 PM #115401NotCrankyParticipant“construction stops entirely”
kewp this is not what happens at all. Contruction slows. Most everyone involved gets a smaller piece of the pie.Some don’t miss a beat. It is not like most 9-5’s where the gig is on or off. People have to compete a little more on price maybe take on jobs they didn’t normally do.People shuffle around a bit.Some leave for greener pastures. There usually has to be some precautionary or mandatory belt tightenting. Those who didn’t prepare may lose a car or a house, some will file bankrutcy, but life goes on and construction goes along at a liveable clip through a recession, at least the one’s we have had in my adult life. I think Rich’s charts, on the topic of levels of employment,when he posts them, support that too.
December 12, 2007 at 3:55 PM #115439NotCrankyParticipant“construction stops entirely”
kewp this is not what happens at all. Contruction slows. Most everyone involved gets a smaller piece of the pie.Some don’t miss a beat. It is not like most 9-5’s where the gig is on or off. People have to compete a little more on price maybe take on jobs they didn’t normally do.People shuffle around a bit.Some leave for greener pastures. There usually has to be some precautionary or mandatory belt tightenting. Those who didn’t prepare may lose a car or a house, some will file bankrutcy, but life goes on and construction goes along at a liveable clip through a recession, at least the one’s we have had in my adult life. I think Rich’s charts, on the topic of levels of employment,when he posts them, support that too.
December 12, 2007 at 3:55 PM #115443NotCrankyParticipant“construction stops entirely”
kewp this is not what happens at all. Contruction slows. Most everyone involved gets a smaller piece of the pie.Some don’t miss a beat. It is not like most 9-5’s where the gig is on or off. People have to compete a little more on price maybe take on jobs they didn’t normally do.People shuffle around a bit.Some leave for greener pastures. There usually has to be some precautionary or mandatory belt tightenting. Those who didn’t prepare may lose a car or a house, some will file bankrutcy, but life goes on and construction goes along at a liveable clip through a recession, at least the one’s we have had in my adult life. I think Rich’s charts, on the topic of levels of employment,when he posts them, support that too.
December 12, 2007 at 3:55 PM #115477NotCrankyParticipant“construction stops entirely”
kewp this is not what happens at all. Contruction slows. Most everyone involved gets a smaller piece of the pie.Some don’t miss a beat. It is not like most 9-5’s where the gig is on or off. People have to compete a little more on price maybe take on jobs they didn’t normally do.People shuffle around a bit.Some leave for greener pastures. There usually has to be some precautionary or mandatory belt tightenting. Those who didn’t prepare may lose a car or a house, some will file bankrutcy, but life goes on and construction goes along at a liveable clip through a recession, at least the one’s we have had in my adult life. I think Rich’s charts, on the topic of levels of employment,when he posts them, support that too.
December 12, 2007 at 3:59 PM #115285sdrealtorParticipantI’ve expalined this many times but the median income HH does not, can not, should not and never will buy the median priced house in a given area again. The only exception was in the recent past when income was irrelevant due to liar loans and anyone could buy whatever they wanted if they had a good FICO score and enough nerve.
One last time:
Approximately 50 to 60% of households own their homes and they very heavily skew toward higher incomes. Thus a broad generalization (admittedly far from perfect but more accurate than not) is that the top 50% of HH buy homes. Of these HH the median income to look at is actually the 75th percentile not the 50th percentile. Add in a high cost area such as So Cal and we skew even higher toward higher income HH’s for home ownership. So if you want a better approximation of how overpriced we are compare the 75th percentile to the median price.I know this is far from perfect but I believe it will give you a far more realistic figure than comaring the median income with the median priced home.
December 12, 2007 at 3:59 PM #115411sdrealtorParticipantI’ve expalined this many times but the median income HH does not, can not, should not and never will buy the median priced house in a given area again. The only exception was in the recent past when income was irrelevant due to liar loans and anyone could buy whatever they wanted if they had a good FICO score and enough nerve.
One last time:
Approximately 50 to 60% of households own their homes and they very heavily skew toward higher incomes. Thus a broad generalization (admittedly far from perfect but more accurate than not) is that the top 50% of HH buy homes. Of these HH the median income to look at is actually the 75th percentile not the 50th percentile. Add in a high cost area such as So Cal and we skew even higher toward higher income HH’s for home ownership. So if you want a better approximation of how overpriced we are compare the 75th percentile to the median price.I know this is far from perfect but I believe it will give you a far more realistic figure than comaring the median income with the median priced home.
December 12, 2007 at 3:59 PM #115449sdrealtorParticipantI’ve expalined this many times but the median income HH does not, can not, should not and never will buy the median priced house in a given area again. The only exception was in the recent past when income was irrelevant due to liar loans and anyone could buy whatever they wanted if they had a good FICO score and enough nerve.
One last time:
Approximately 50 to 60% of households own their homes and they very heavily skew toward higher incomes. Thus a broad generalization (admittedly far from perfect but more accurate than not) is that the top 50% of HH buy homes. Of these HH the median income to look at is actually the 75th percentile not the 50th percentile. Add in a high cost area such as So Cal and we skew even higher toward higher income HH’s for home ownership. So if you want a better approximation of how overpriced we are compare the 75th percentile to the median price.I know this is far from perfect but I believe it will give you a far more realistic figure than comaring the median income with the median priced home.
December 12, 2007 at 3:59 PM #115453sdrealtorParticipantI’ve expalined this many times but the median income HH does not, can not, should not and never will buy the median priced house in a given area again. The only exception was in the recent past when income was irrelevant due to liar loans and anyone could buy whatever they wanted if they had a good FICO score and enough nerve.
One last time:
Approximately 50 to 60% of households own their homes and they very heavily skew toward higher incomes. Thus a broad generalization (admittedly far from perfect but more accurate than not) is that the top 50% of HH buy homes. Of these HH the median income to look at is actually the 75th percentile not the 50th percentile. Add in a high cost area such as So Cal and we skew even higher toward higher income HH’s for home ownership. So if you want a better approximation of how overpriced we are compare the 75th percentile to the median price.I know this is far from perfect but I believe it will give you a far more realistic figure than comaring the median income with the median priced home.
December 12, 2007 at 3:59 PM #115487sdrealtorParticipantI’ve expalined this many times but the median income HH does not, can not, should not and never will buy the median priced house in a given area again. The only exception was in the recent past when income was irrelevant due to liar loans and anyone could buy whatever they wanted if they had a good FICO score and enough nerve.
One last time:
Approximately 50 to 60% of households own their homes and they very heavily skew toward higher incomes. Thus a broad generalization (admittedly far from perfect but more accurate than not) is that the top 50% of HH buy homes. Of these HH the median income to look at is actually the 75th percentile not the 50th percentile. Add in a high cost area such as So Cal and we skew even higher toward higher income HH’s for home ownership. So if you want a better approximation of how overpriced we are compare the 75th percentile to the median price.I know this is far from perfect but I believe it will give you a far more realistic figure than comaring the median income with the median priced home.
December 12, 2007 at 4:26 PM #115310(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantThanks sdr. I asked the question because I was sick of addressing the fallacy that equates median homes to be afforded by median incomes.
December 12, 2007 at 4:26 PM #115438(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantThanks sdr. I asked the question because I was sick of addressing the fallacy that equates median homes to be afforded by median incomes.
December 12, 2007 at 4:26 PM #115472(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantThanks sdr. I asked the question because I was sick of addressing the fallacy that equates median homes to be afforded by median incomes.
December 12, 2007 at 4:26 PM #115476(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantThanks sdr. I asked the question because I was sick of addressing the fallacy that equates median homes to be afforded by median incomes.
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