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May 29, 2009 at 1:50 PM #407740May 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM #407965ArrayaParticipant
The final 30 minute pop is pretty usual. It’s one of two things. EIther hyper-dimensional reptilian beings using mind control or Goldman Sachs quant funds that control 1 in 10 trades on the NYSE. Take your pick.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/goldman-sachs-principal-transactions_23.html
This is getting surreal. Goldman principal program trading is now well over 5x compared to its customer and agency trades and a 150 million share pick up compared to last week. For yet another week, Goldman’s principal trading represents more than half of all NYSE member firm principal transactions.The people demand Cuomo and an end of market manipulation.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/
As for today’s market close, with a literally parabolic jump in the last minute of trading, if anyone still thinks this market trades based on anything resembling normal behavior (unless someone had a very Jerome Kerviel-esque fat delta hedging finger or one/two moderate/large quants who had a huge index hedge imploded), I have some BBB+ rated CMBS to sell to you at par. One culprit could be hiding in the huge drop of agency trading, which this week dropped to a several month low of 1.875 billion shares.So as essentially no institutional or retail clients are trading any more, it is just a few desperate computers trying to front run each other. And, of course, for the biggest beneficiary of this PT principal bonanza, look no further than the chart below.
Going back to today’s ridiculous close, the chart below shows it all: the complete tape painting volume spike at the very end of the day speaks for itself. And as computers now simply issue forced stock recall orders to each other, painting the tape wet with manipulative intent and volume spikes into the last 20 minutes of trading every day, their human creators are left on the sidelines, trying to outshout each other as to the reason for why the market keeps rising while the economy keeps tumbling.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain who’s ass is hanging out…
May 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM #407755ArrayaParticipantThe final 30 minute pop is pretty usual. It’s one of two things. EIther hyper-dimensional reptilian beings using mind control or Goldman Sachs quant funds that control 1 in 10 trades on the NYSE. Take your pick.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/goldman-sachs-principal-transactions_23.html
This is getting surreal. Goldman principal program trading is now well over 5x compared to its customer and agency trades and a 150 million share pick up compared to last week. For yet another week, Goldman’s principal trading represents more than half of all NYSE member firm principal transactions.The people demand Cuomo and an end of market manipulation.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/
As for today’s market close, with a literally parabolic jump in the last minute of trading, if anyone still thinks this market trades based on anything resembling normal behavior (unless someone had a very Jerome Kerviel-esque fat delta hedging finger or one/two moderate/large quants who had a huge index hedge imploded), I have some BBB+ rated CMBS to sell to you at par. One culprit could be hiding in the huge drop of agency trading, which this week dropped to a several month low of 1.875 billion shares.So as essentially no institutional or retail clients are trading any more, it is just a few desperate computers trying to front run each other. And, of course, for the biggest beneficiary of this PT principal bonanza, look no further than the chart below.
Going back to today’s ridiculous close, the chart below shows it all: the complete tape painting volume spike at the very end of the day speaks for itself. And as computers now simply issue forced stock recall orders to each other, painting the tape wet with manipulative intent and volume spikes into the last 20 minutes of trading every day, their human creators are left on the sidelines, trying to outshout each other as to the reason for why the market keeps rising while the economy keeps tumbling.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain who’s ass is hanging out…
May 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM #407818ArrayaParticipantThe final 30 minute pop is pretty usual. It’s one of two things. EIther hyper-dimensional reptilian beings using mind control or Goldman Sachs quant funds that control 1 in 10 trades on the NYSE. Take your pick.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/goldman-sachs-principal-transactions_23.html
This is getting surreal. Goldman principal program trading is now well over 5x compared to its customer and agency trades and a 150 million share pick up compared to last week. For yet another week, Goldman’s principal trading represents more than half of all NYSE member firm principal transactions.The people demand Cuomo and an end of market manipulation.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/
As for today’s market close, with a literally parabolic jump in the last minute of trading, if anyone still thinks this market trades based on anything resembling normal behavior (unless someone had a very Jerome Kerviel-esque fat delta hedging finger or one/two moderate/large quants who had a huge index hedge imploded), I have some BBB+ rated CMBS to sell to you at par. One culprit could be hiding in the huge drop of agency trading, which this week dropped to a several month low of 1.875 billion shares.So as essentially no institutional or retail clients are trading any more, it is just a few desperate computers trying to front run each other. And, of course, for the biggest beneficiary of this PT principal bonanza, look no further than the chart below.
Going back to today’s ridiculous close, the chart below shows it all: the complete tape painting volume spike at the very end of the day speaks for itself. And as computers now simply issue forced stock recall orders to each other, painting the tape wet with manipulative intent and volume spikes into the last 20 minutes of trading every day, their human creators are left on the sidelines, trying to outshout each other as to the reason for why the market keeps rising while the economy keeps tumbling.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain who’s ass is hanging out…
May 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM #407270ArrayaParticipantThe final 30 minute pop is pretty usual. It’s one of two things. EIther hyper-dimensional reptilian beings using mind control or Goldman Sachs quant funds that control 1 in 10 trades on the NYSE. Take your pick.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/goldman-sachs-principal-transactions_23.html
This is getting surreal. Goldman principal program trading is now well over 5x compared to its customer and agency trades and a 150 million share pick up compared to last week. For yet another week, Goldman’s principal trading represents more than half of all NYSE member firm principal transactions.The people demand Cuomo and an end of market manipulation.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/
As for today’s market close, with a literally parabolic jump in the last minute of trading, if anyone still thinks this market trades based on anything resembling normal behavior (unless someone had a very Jerome Kerviel-esque fat delta hedging finger or one/two moderate/large quants who had a huge index hedge imploded), I have some BBB+ rated CMBS to sell to you at par. One culprit could be hiding in the huge drop of agency trading, which this week dropped to a several month low of 1.875 billion shares.So as essentially no institutional or retail clients are trading any more, it is just a few desperate computers trying to front run each other. And, of course, for the biggest beneficiary of this PT principal bonanza, look no further than the chart below.
Going back to today’s ridiculous close, the chart below shows it all: the complete tape painting volume spike at the very end of the day speaks for itself. And as computers now simply issue forced stock recall orders to each other, painting the tape wet with manipulative intent and volume spikes into the last 20 minutes of trading every day, their human creators are left on the sidelines, trying to outshout each other as to the reason for why the market keeps rising while the economy keeps tumbling.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain who’s ass is hanging out…
May 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM #407513ArrayaParticipantThe final 30 minute pop is pretty usual. It’s one of two things. EIther hyper-dimensional reptilian beings using mind control or Goldman Sachs quant funds that control 1 in 10 trades on the NYSE. Take your pick.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/goldman-sachs-principal-transactions_23.html
This is getting surreal. Goldman principal program trading is now well over 5x compared to its customer and agency trades and a 150 million share pick up compared to last week. For yet another week, Goldman’s principal trading represents more than half of all NYSE member firm principal transactions.The people demand Cuomo and an end of market manipulation.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/
As for today’s market close, with a literally parabolic jump in the last minute of trading, if anyone still thinks this market trades based on anything resembling normal behavior (unless someone had a very Jerome Kerviel-esque fat delta hedging finger or one/two moderate/large quants who had a huge index hedge imploded), I have some BBB+ rated CMBS to sell to you at par. One culprit could be hiding in the huge drop of agency trading, which this week dropped to a several month low of 1.875 billion shares.So as essentially no institutional or retail clients are trading any more, it is just a few desperate computers trying to front run each other. And, of course, for the biggest beneficiary of this PT principal bonanza, look no further than the chart below.
Going back to today’s ridiculous close, the chart below shows it all: the complete tape painting volume spike at the very end of the day speaks for itself. And as computers now simply issue forced stock recall orders to each other, painting the tape wet with manipulative intent and volume spikes into the last 20 minutes of trading every day, their human creators are left on the sidelines, trying to outshout each other as to the reason for why the market keeps rising while the economy keeps tumbling.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain who’s ass is hanging out…
May 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM #407285Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantThere are a couple of things that cause this type of close. First the month end mark up has a good up bias on the 21st trading day of the month, this is due to what positions funds want to show at months end. You need to have the big gain stocks in your portfolio at months end even if it means you bought them in the last 30 seconds. This is called Window Dressing in the street Jargon.
Second, the PPT is very active at certain times and whenever you see Goldman very active in program trading that is most likely the PPT, they have an account there rumor has it. When you see that skew in their program trading, they are doing the governments manipulation work. They know how bad things are out there, but they need to keep this market up to help sell the story about how much good their actions are doing.
PPT has been around for awhile, and this is how you spot them at work, look for end of the day saves particularly on down days, but this was also the PPT at work. Now that the government has more control over GS it helps them conduct their futures program manipulation at times when they want to do it. GS was also one of the big firms that had the CIT fund accounts that helped manipulate the price of Crude up last year, ducking the CFTC guidelines that would normally apply to Large Speculators by getting commercial status under the CIT label. This allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Commercials are afforded that status due to the hedging nature of their operations, so when the govt mistakenly gave these funds that designation they set the stage for what happened. Of course they then cried foul and blamed the speculators! An acquaintance of mine went before congress to explain all this to them and of course they dismissed him once they realized he was more on top of what had happened than they thought.
May 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM #407770Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantThere are a couple of things that cause this type of close. First the month end mark up has a good up bias on the 21st trading day of the month, this is due to what positions funds want to show at months end. You need to have the big gain stocks in your portfolio at months end even if it means you bought them in the last 30 seconds. This is called Window Dressing in the street Jargon.
Second, the PPT is very active at certain times and whenever you see Goldman very active in program trading that is most likely the PPT, they have an account there rumor has it. When you see that skew in their program trading, they are doing the governments manipulation work. They know how bad things are out there, but they need to keep this market up to help sell the story about how much good their actions are doing.
PPT has been around for awhile, and this is how you spot them at work, look for end of the day saves particularly on down days, but this was also the PPT at work. Now that the government has more control over GS it helps them conduct their futures program manipulation at times when they want to do it. GS was also one of the big firms that had the CIT fund accounts that helped manipulate the price of Crude up last year, ducking the CFTC guidelines that would normally apply to Large Speculators by getting commercial status under the CIT label. This allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Commercials are afforded that status due to the hedging nature of their operations, so when the govt mistakenly gave these funds that designation they set the stage for what happened. Of course they then cried foul and blamed the speculators! An acquaintance of mine went before congress to explain all this to them and of course they dismissed him once they realized he was more on top of what had happened than they thought.
May 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM #407980Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantThere are a couple of things that cause this type of close. First the month end mark up has a good up bias on the 21st trading day of the month, this is due to what positions funds want to show at months end. You need to have the big gain stocks in your portfolio at months end even if it means you bought them in the last 30 seconds. This is called Window Dressing in the street Jargon.
Second, the PPT is very active at certain times and whenever you see Goldman very active in program trading that is most likely the PPT, they have an account there rumor has it. When you see that skew in their program trading, they are doing the governments manipulation work. They know how bad things are out there, but they need to keep this market up to help sell the story about how much good their actions are doing.
PPT has been around for awhile, and this is how you spot them at work, look for end of the day saves particularly on down days, but this was also the PPT at work. Now that the government has more control over GS it helps them conduct their futures program manipulation at times when they want to do it. GS was also one of the big firms that had the CIT fund accounts that helped manipulate the price of Crude up last year, ducking the CFTC guidelines that would normally apply to Large Speculators by getting commercial status under the CIT label. This allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Commercials are afforded that status due to the hedging nature of their operations, so when the govt mistakenly gave these funds that designation they set the stage for what happened. Of course they then cried foul and blamed the speculators! An acquaintance of mine went before congress to explain all this to them and of course they dismissed him once they realized he was more on top of what had happened than they thought.
May 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM #407528Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantThere are a couple of things that cause this type of close. First the month end mark up has a good up bias on the 21st trading day of the month, this is due to what positions funds want to show at months end. You need to have the big gain stocks in your portfolio at months end even if it means you bought them in the last 30 seconds. This is called Window Dressing in the street Jargon.
Second, the PPT is very active at certain times and whenever you see Goldman very active in program trading that is most likely the PPT, they have an account there rumor has it. When you see that skew in their program trading, they are doing the governments manipulation work. They know how bad things are out there, but they need to keep this market up to help sell the story about how much good their actions are doing.
PPT has been around for awhile, and this is how you spot them at work, look for end of the day saves particularly on down days, but this was also the PPT at work. Now that the government has more control over GS it helps them conduct their futures program manipulation at times when they want to do it. GS was also one of the big firms that had the CIT fund accounts that helped manipulate the price of Crude up last year, ducking the CFTC guidelines that would normally apply to Large Speculators by getting commercial status under the CIT label. This allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Commercials are afforded that status due to the hedging nature of their operations, so when the govt mistakenly gave these funds that designation they set the stage for what happened. Of course they then cried foul and blamed the speculators! An acquaintance of mine went before congress to explain all this to them and of course they dismissed him once they realized he was more on top of what had happened than they thought.
May 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM #407832Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantThere are a couple of things that cause this type of close. First the month end mark up has a good up bias on the 21st trading day of the month, this is due to what positions funds want to show at months end. You need to have the big gain stocks in your portfolio at months end even if it means you bought them in the last 30 seconds. This is called Window Dressing in the street Jargon.
Second, the PPT is very active at certain times and whenever you see Goldman very active in program trading that is most likely the PPT, they have an account there rumor has it. When you see that skew in their program trading, they are doing the governments manipulation work. They know how bad things are out there, but they need to keep this market up to help sell the story about how much good their actions are doing.
PPT has been around for awhile, and this is how you spot them at work, look for end of the day saves particularly on down days, but this was also the PPT at work. Now that the government has more control over GS it helps them conduct their futures program manipulation at times when they want to do it. GS was also one of the big firms that had the CIT fund accounts that helped manipulate the price of Crude up last year, ducking the CFTC guidelines that would normally apply to Large Speculators by getting commercial status under the CIT label. This allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Commercials are afforded that status due to the hedging nature of their operations, so when the govt mistakenly gave these funds that designation they set the stage for what happened. Of course they then cried foul and blamed the speculators! An acquaintance of mine went before congress to explain all this to them and of course they dismissed him once they realized he was more on top of what had happened than they thought.
May 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM #407775ArrayaParticipantThis allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Of course a stagnant supply for four years and increasing demand helps too. Chin-India increased there usage by over 8-9 million bbl per day with no aggregate world increase in production. With an elasticity of 15%, prices could be justified by fundamentals as well. But who’s paying attention to that?
May 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM #407533ArrayaParticipantThis allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Of course a stagnant supply for four years and increasing demand helps too. Chin-India increased there usage by over 8-9 million bbl per day with no aggregate world increase in production. With an elasticity of 15%, prices could be justified by fundamentals as well. But who’s paying attention to that?
May 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM #407290ArrayaParticipantThis allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Of course a stagnant supply for four years and increasing demand helps too. Chin-India increased there usage by over 8-9 million bbl per day with no aggregate world increase in production. With an elasticity of 15%, prices could be justified by fundamentals as well. But who’s paying attention to that?
May 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM #407837ArrayaParticipantThis allowed them to have unlimited position sizes like commercials have and enabled them to push prices to a ridiculous level.
Of course a stagnant supply for four years and increasing demand helps too. Chin-India increased there usage by over 8-9 million bbl per day with no aggregate world increase in production. With an elasticity of 15%, prices could be justified by fundamentals as well. But who’s paying attention to that?
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