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May 26, 2011 at 9:34 AM #699663May 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM #699091
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=pfflyer]I have several kids approaching HS age so am very concerned about how to get them college educated (if really needed) without becoming overly indebted. It is so lame because I could teach them how to run a business better than some professor. However this country still is in love with the degree even though it has become so devalued. Also we talk regularly about which job categories will be growth oriented in the future and which are dying out. A tough time to be a father…[/quote]
pfflyer, there’s nothing wrong with showing your kids how to run a biz. I’ve seen several local top-producing RE agents and one enrolled agent tax preparer around here put their newly licensed kid to work sitting open houses and acting as their transaction coordinator and/or Spanish translator. The tax preparer has their newly minted HS grad (now CC student) answering phones, copying and setting up appts in their office during tax season and beyond. They don’t even teach these practical skills in the (expensive) Wharton School of Business! It doesn’t hurt for a 19 yo to get up in the am, dress for biz, turn off their texting/twitter/ipod, etc and pretend like they’re in the “real world” for a few hrs a day.
May 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM #699678Participant[quote=pfflyer]I have several kids approaching HS age so am very concerned about how to get them college educated (if really needed) without becoming overly indebted. It is so lame because I could teach them how to run a business better than some professor. However this country still is in love with the degree even though it has become so devalued. Also we talk regularly about which job categories will be growth oriented in the future and which are dying out. A tough time to be a father…[/quote]
pfflyer, there’s nothing wrong with showing your kids how to run a biz. I’ve seen several local top-producing RE agents and one enrolled agent tax preparer around here put their newly licensed kid to work sitting open houses and acting as their transaction coordinator and/or Spanish translator. The tax preparer has their newly minted HS grad (now CC student) answering phones, copying and setting up appts in their office during tax season and beyond. They don’t even teach these practical skills in the (expensive) Wharton School of Business! It doesn’t hurt for a 19 yo to get up in the am, dress for biz, turn off their texting/twitter/ipod, etc and pretend like they’re in the “real world” for a few hrs a day.
May 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM #699824Participant[quote=pfflyer]I have several kids approaching HS age so am very concerned about how to get them college educated (if really needed) without becoming overly indebted. It is so lame because I could teach them how to run a business better than some professor. However this country still is in love with the degree even though it has become so devalued. Also we talk regularly about which job categories will be growth oriented in the future and which are dying out. A tough time to be a father…[/quote]
pfflyer, there’s nothing wrong with showing your kids how to run a biz. I’ve seen several local top-producing RE agents and one enrolled agent tax preparer around here put their newly licensed kid to work sitting open houses and acting as their transaction coordinator and/or Spanish translator. The tax preparer has their newly minted HS grad (now CC student) answering phones, copying and setting up appts in their office during tax season and beyond. They don’t even teach these practical skills in the (expensive) Wharton School of Business! It doesn’t hurt for a 19 yo to get up in the am, dress for biz, turn off their texting/twitter/ipod, etc and pretend like they’re in the “real world” for a few hrs a day.
May 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM #700177Participant[quote=pfflyer]I have several kids approaching HS age so am very concerned about how to get them college educated (if really needed) without becoming overly indebted. It is so lame because I could teach them how to run a business better than some professor. However this country still is in love with the degree even though it has become so devalued. Also we talk regularly about which job categories will be growth oriented in the future and which are dying out. A tough time to be a father…[/quote]
pfflyer, there’s nothing wrong with showing your kids how to run a biz. I’ve seen several local top-producing RE agents and one enrolled agent tax preparer around here put their newly licensed kid to work sitting open houses and acting as their transaction coordinator and/or Spanish translator. The tax preparer has their newly minted HS grad (now CC student) answering phones, copying and setting up appts in their office during tax season and beyond. They don’t even teach these practical skills in the (expensive) Wharton School of Business! It doesn’t hurt for a 19 yo to get up in the am, dress for biz, turn off their texting/twitter/ipod, etc and pretend like they’re in the “real world” for a few hrs a day.
May 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM #698998Participant[quote=pfflyer]I have several kids approaching HS age so am very concerned about how to get them college educated (if really needed) without becoming overly indebted. It is so lame because I could teach them how to run a business better than some professor. However this country still is in love with the degree even though it has become so devalued. Also we talk regularly about which job categories will be growth oriented in the future and which are dying out. A tough time to be a father…[/quote]
pfflyer, there’s nothing wrong with showing your kids how to run a biz. I’ve seen several local top-producing RE agents and one enrolled agent tax preparer around here put their newly licensed kid to work sitting open houses and acting as their transaction coordinator and/or Spanish translator. The tax preparer has their newly minted HS grad (now CC student) answering phones, copying and setting up appts in their office during tax season and beyond. They don’t even teach these practical skills in the (expensive) Wharton School of Business! It doesn’t hurt for a 19 yo to get up in the am, dress for biz, turn off their texting/twitter/ipod, etc and pretend like they’re in the “real world” for a few hrs a day.
May 26, 2011 at 10:08 AM #699829enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
May 26, 2011 at 10:08 AM #700182Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
May 26, 2011 at 10:08 AM #699683Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
May 26, 2011 at 10:08 AM #699096Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
May 26, 2011 at 10:08 AM #699003Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
May 26, 2011 at 10:42 AM #699102urbanrealtor
Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.[/quote]
Couple thoughts on this:
My dad always told me that college was like high school.
In other words, it is a pre-requisite to getting a job but it won’t get you one necessarily.
He pointed out that he is a pediatric neurologist and stroke researcher and that he majored in philosophy.I spent my time studying cognition and decision-making in groups and now I sell houses.
In my last year, I too, all grad-level classes (all my former TA’s).
I find selling houses helps to direct my contrary nature in constructive directions.
While I am glad I did college, I never thought of it as really a direct stepping stone.
My 2 bits.
May 26, 2011 at 10:42 AM #700187Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.[/quote]
Couple thoughts on this:
My dad always told me that college was like high school.
In other words, it is a pre-requisite to getting a job but it won’t get you one necessarily.
He pointed out that he is a pediatric neurologist and stroke researcher and that he majored in philosophy.I spent my time studying cognition and decision-making in groups and now I sell houses.
In my last year, I too, all grad-level classes (all my former TA’s).
I find selling houses helps to direct my contrary nature in constructive directions.
While I am glad I did college, I never thought of it as really a direct stepping stone.
My 2 bits.
May 26, 2011 at 10:42 AM #699008Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.[/quote]
Couple thoughts on this:
My dad always told me that college was like high school.
In other words, it is a pre-requisite to getting a job but it won’t get you one necessarily.
He pointed out that he is a pediatric neurologist and stroke researcher and that he majored in philosophy.I spent my time studying cognition and decision-making in groups and now I sell houses.
In my last year, I too, all grad-level classes (all my former TA’s).
I find selling houses helps to direct my contrary nature in constructive directions.
While I am glad I did college, I never thought of it as really a direct stepping stone.
My 2 bits.
May 26, 2011 at 10:42 AM #699688Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.[/quote]
Couple thoughts on this:
My dad always told me that college was like high school.
In other words, it is a pre-requisite to getting a job but it won’t get you one necessarily.
He pointed out that he is a pediatric neurologist and stroke researcher and that he majored in philosophy.I spent my time studying cognition and decision-making in groups and now I sell houses.
In my last year, I too, all grad-level classes (all my former TA’s).
I find selling houses helps to direct my contrary nature in constructive directions.
While I am glad I did college, I never thought of it as really a direct stepping stone.
My 2 bits.
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