2011 API scores are out

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]I think there is a difference between if school X and school Y have a huge disparity in scores. BUT, if they’re within a 50 or so points, I don’t see it necessarily that much worse. What is interesting to me is SD in general seemed to have improved overall.[/quote]

Agree, flu. The teachers are getting very, very good at having cold knowledge and therefore very precise repetition of the test material. I’ve seen this is action at a HS open house and was VERY impressed!!

[sdrealtor]

San Dieguito is the other school here and it is 854.

LCC is the big time school where the atheletes go while San Dieguito is the smaller school for the more academically focused.

There is something else that goes on around here which I dont know how to quantify. I would estimate that between 20 and 30% of the kids around here go to high end private schools like Santa Fe Christian, Cathedral, LJ Country Day, Nativiety, Pacific Ridge, Rhodes etc. These kids are more likely to be top performers in school as opposed to low performers. So a fairly high percentage of top performers get skimmed off from the publics around here. I wonder what that number looks like in Carmel Valley? My guess would be the relatively wealthy asian families in CV buy there to send their kids to the publics. Where as up here, a higher percentage of relatively wealthy folks buy bigger homes, nicer homes on more land for the same or less and send their kids to the best private schools in the county.

Its jsut a theory. Any ideas how to test this one out?

[bearishgurl]

Attrition of the best students from public to private HS happens everywhere.

http://72.249.30.49/~marian/

http://72.249.30.49/~marian/index.php/2011-08-09-03-29-05/school-profile

The school above’s students come from all over metro SD and South County but the vast majority are siphoned from South County school attendance areas. Nearly ALL the teachers there have doctorate degrees (nuns) and were brought in by the SD Diocese from Ohio specifically to run/teach in this school. It has an entirely college-prep curriculum (very rigorous) which includes mandatory religious education.

In addition, Bishops (HS) has four stops on Bonita Road and one near the SD Country Club (Hilltop & L in Chula Vista). They may also have routes I don’t know about in 91913, 91914 and 91915. This certainly drains “cream of the crop” students from South County HS’s as well.

That’s the way the ball bounces. If families can afford it, they have the right to send their children to top-notch private schools. And as has previously been posted, students with discipline and motivation problems do not last long at these schools. These schools are too expensive for the rest of the students to be distracted by the ones who don’t want to learn. Those “carefree surfer-dude types” are left to attend public school or be homeschooled :=]

[sdrealtor]

I understand it happens every where. I just am intersted as to what degree. My guess would be lower in CV (as Torrey Pines has big time cachet) as opposed to up here. I could be wrong but would be interested if there was anyway to test my theory.

[Coronita]

[quote=sdrealtor]San Dieguito is the other school here and it is 854.

LCC is the big time school where the atheletes go while San Dieguito is the smaller school for the more academically focused.

There is something else that goes on around here which I dont know how to quantify. I would estimate that between 20 and 30% of the kids around here go to high end private schools like Santa Fe Christian, Cathedral, LJ Country Day, Nativiety, Pacific Ridge, Rhodes etc. These kids are more likely to be top performers in school as opposed to low performers. So a fairly high percentage of top performers get skimmed off from the publics around here. I wonder what that number looks like in Carmel Valley? My guess would be the relatively wealthy asian families in CV buy there to send their kids to the publics. Where as up here, a higher percentage of relatively wealthy folks buy bigger homes, nicer homes on more land for the same or less and send their kids to the best private schools in the county.

Its jsut a theory. Any ideas how to test this one out?[/quote]

What I end up doing is sending my kids to a public school so they can experience all the bullying, teasing,etc, because I intentionally want to lose my hair before modern medicine does that to me, ha ha ha..

But in all seriousness, I think many asian families end up just sending kids to well known afterschool enrichment programs (inclusive). There are 5-6 of then in sorrento valley and rancho pq. Purely from the school perspective, it’s pretty decent, because they do the bilingual education and supplement the math/science/ engrish(sic) writing beyond what the school teaches. Plus there’s lots of kids which end up playing together.

I like the program she’s currently enrolled in, because they aren’t *that* pushy. I looked at some of the extra enrichment programs that DMUSD offers. While they aren’t bad, there are a few good art/science/PE type classes. But I’m still going to do the asian after school program.

The real rich asian communities, hire full time private tutors (no joke).

[sdrealtor]

Makes sense FLU. Around here they seem to choose enrichment schools instead of programs

[scaredyclassic]

Well ok Maybe API scores matter a tiny bit but only if they’re real low. As long as they’re reasonable it doesn’t matter.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=flu]

But in all seriousness, I think many asian families end up just sending kids to well known afterschool enrichment programs (inclusive). There are 5-6 of then in sorrento valley and rancho pq. Purely from the school perspective, it’s pretty decent, because they do the bilingual education and supplement the math/science/ engrish(sic) writing beyond what the school teaches. Plus there’s lots of kids which end up playing together.

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Flu/others:

For my own education, can someone please list out these enrichment programs? The (dumb) people that I hang out with do not seem to know about them. Must know which these places are 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=flu]

But in all seriousness, I think many asian families end up just sending kids to well known afterschool enrichment programs (inclusive). There are 5-6 of then in sorrento valley and rancho pq. Purely from the school perspective, it’s pretty decent, because they do the bilingual education and supplement the math/science/ engrish(sic) writing beyond what the school teaches. Plus there’s lots of kids which end up playing together.

[/quote]

Flu/others:

For my own education, can someone please list out these enrichment programs? The (dumb) people that I hang out with do not seem to know about them. Must know which these places are :)[/quote]

I’ll send you a pm.

[Mooki]

Carlsbad vs. San Marcos: If you want to send your kids to public HS with good API, live in San Marcos, not Carlsbad.

I know friends who send their kids to private schools. Their peers are all from parents who have the money to put them to private schools. They expect the latest cell phones, designer clothes and snowboarding trips from their parents as a given. Yes they do well academically too but I want my kids to be in public school to associate with peers from different social and economic backgrounds.

[an]

[quote=walterwhite]Well ok Maybe API scores matter a tiny bit but only if they’re real low. As long as they’re reasonable it doesn’t matter.[/quote]
It’s not so much that higher API score will make your kids smarter. But the school with higher scores means there are more kids with scored better (hence the average API score is higher). The more students who do well, will mean more demand for AP classes. More demand for AP classes = more AP classes available. Then there’s also the analogy I’ve used, which is comparing schooling/competition to running a marathon. If you’re a big fish in a small pond, you tend to not be as prepared for the kind of competition you have to deal with at the University level. If you go to top rated school (doesn’t have to be the top but schools that in the mid 800s API would do), you’ll be prepared to deal with those kind of competition, since you’ve been dealing with it through out primary schools.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=bearishgurl][quote=walterwhite]API scores mean nothing.

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fuck the API score. meaningless….all that matters is whether you find your own way.[/quote]

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BG
You are a moron. Don’t you know that 99% of scaredy’s posts are mocking us? He’s toying with us and you are one of the people foolish enough to bite on his bait over and over again.[/quote]

This one cracked me up, I thought I was the only one who “got it” when it comes to walter’s occasional joke posts (but I put it at 50% intentional irony). I would never “out” him or anything he has told me, but he’s mentioned more than once in posts where he bought and for those of us who live here we know that his area is in the school boundary for the highest API score for 30 miles in any direction.

BG, I will keep this cordial but I take exception to the lizard land comment and your personal preferences regarding housing. You think these people are wrong, but you failing to appreciate other peoples preferences. I personally hate any house more that 15 years old, they are inefficient and I hate large lots and I really hate overhead utilities. I’d lived in a variety of housing styles and in a variety of locations, including 5 towns in S.D.

I enjoyed a condo in lizard land more than the 70 year place in S.D. I lived in, complete with it’s power poles, wires strung everywhere and mostly, the wacky things the neighbors do to their property. You can disagree, I cannot even defend my position, but it is my preference and I’m cool with that. I love HOA’s and Mello Roos, because they come with rules about the person next door painting their house yellow and there is center median landscaping, new schools and predominantly english speakers in those schools. I want all the houses in one place and the stores in another, I want the poor people and the apartments far away and I don’t want mass transit to come within a days walk of where I lay my head and I don;t want to live within thirty miles of Mexico. The kind of houses and neighborhoods you like are the opposite of what I like, neither of us are wrong, it’s just a preference and for different reasons. So don’t get mad that most young buyers don’t appreciate the things that you do, they are allowed to have their preferences. I purposely bought in the neighborhood with the highest HOA I could find, it keeps out the rif raf and that makes me happy, right or wrong. I do the same thing with a lot of stuff, for example, women. I like a certain kind of woman, not everybody agrees with me, I don’t care what everyone else likes, it’s not about them, it’s about me, life got easier once I figured that out.

[an]

BG, your post is quite long, so I won’t quote it, but here are my replies. Just because a school is rated a 1 doesn’t mean that there was something wrong with the measurement. There are several schools in SD a lone that have a 1. Hoover, Lincoln, and Crawford are a few HS in SD with a score of 1.

WRT my wife, like I said, her and a few others (valedictorians) end up going to prestigious universities and are doing well. But that’s a very small subset of the graduating class. Many don’t even graduate. Like I said, bad school is not a guarantee that your kids will be pregnant or a gang banger. It just mean a larger portion of the student body are getting into those activities.

If you think it’s easy for “teachers are teaching students using rote memorization techniques to the test and nothing more.”, then why aren’t all schools getting a 10 on their API score.

Going back to your RE point, to some it is, to others, it’s not. We all have different priority. Why are you faulting others for having different priority than yours? To some, an area with low score IS worse, because that’s high in their priority list. I know I would never by a place in an area with test score <7/8. Some other have higher standard than I do. School's API score is not the ONLY factor people look at when buying a house. But it is one factor. How important it is depends on the individual.

[Anonymous]

[quote=AN][quote=svelte]Woo Hoo San Marcos! Right up there with the big boys!

Asian:
969 (Canyon Crest – San Dieguito)
955 (Torrey Pines – San Dieguito)
943 (San Marcos – San Marcos)
925 (La Costa Canyon – San Dieguito)
923 (Scripps Ranch – San Diego)
921 (Del Norte – Poway)
914 (Mission Hills – San Marcos)
908 (Rancho Bernardo – Poway)
907 (Carlsbad – Carlsbad)
895 (Mira Mesa – San Diego)
873 (Mt. Carmel – Poway)
873 (University City – San Diego)

Filipino:
936 (Mission Hills – San Marcos)
917 (San Marcos – San Marcos)
892 (Scripps Ranch – San Diego)
880 (Carlsbad – Carlsbad)
859 (Mira Mesa – San Diego)
856 (Del Norte – Poway)
844 (Rancho Bernardo – Poway)
837 (Torrey Pines – San Dieguito)
833 (University City – San Diego)
807 (Mt. Carmel – Poway)
766 (La Costa Canyon – San Dieguito)
– (Canyon Crest – San Dieguito)

Hispanic:
864 (Canyon Crest – San Dieguito)
848 (Del Norte – Poway)
800 (Scripps Ranch – San Diego)
795 (San Marcos – San Marcos)
781 (Mira Mesa – San Diego)
780 (Mission Hills – San Marcos)
772 (Rancho Bernardo – Poway)
744 (Torrey Pines – San Dieguito)
740 (Carlsbad – Carlsbad)
737 (Mt. Carmel – Poway)
726 (University City – San Diego)
685 (La Costa Canyon – San Dieguito)

White:
914 (San Marcos – San Marcos)
905 (Scripps Ranch – San Diego)
900 (Canyon Crest – San Dieguito)
887 (Mission Hills – San Marcos)
879 (University City – San Diego)
871 (Torrey Pines – San Dieguito)
869 (Mira Mesa – San Diego)
858 (Del Norte – Poway)
854 (Carlsbad – Carlsbad)
844 (La Costa Canyon – San Dieguito)
840 (Mt. Carmel – Poway)
838 (Rancho Bernardo – Poway)

Black:
851 (San Marcos – San Marcos)
820 (Torrey Pines – San Dieguito)
819 (Scripps Ranch – San Diego)
816 (Mission Hills – San Marcos)
801 (Carlsbad – Carlsbad)
785 (Mira Mesa – San Diego)
779 (La Costa Canyon – San Dieguito)
759 (Mt. Carmel – Poway)
744 (Mira Mesa – San Diego)
739 (Rancho Bernardo – Poway)
735 (Del Norte – Poway)
– (Canyon Crest – San Deguito)[/quote]
Adding a few more schools. San Marcos High have some very impressive numbers.[/quote]

Glad to see old San Marcos High School is doing well. I’ve always thought that La Costa Canyon and Carlsbad were overrated, sports schools.

Over the past decade, the API score of SMHS has increased by over 200 points! Considering the fact that the demographics are still changing in favor of the high school and that the school is being completely rebuilt, SMHS is set to become one of the more prestigious high schools in the county!

[Anonymous]

Look, LCC and Carlsbad just suck in the API/test scores category. Stop trying to lessen the fact that they score poorly by saying that “LCC draws some poor families from the barrio of Encinitas or the Barrio of Carlsbad”. You sound like an idiot. Nearly HALF of San Marcos IS a barrio. The white AND hispanic kids at LCC/Carlsbad are wealthier than their counterparts at SMHS and MHHS.

La Costa Canyon:
Percentage of caucasians/non-hispanics that are socioeconomically disadvantaged: 3.7%
Percentage of Hispanics that are socioeconomically disadvantaged: 55%

San Marcos High:
Caucasians/non-hispanic: 10.3%
Hispanics: 72.6%

LCC/ Carlsbad are just not that great. get over it.

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