14540 Red Hawk Lane, Poway

[gn]

I’m trying to learn more about the neighborhood near this property.

14540 RED HAWK LANE
Poway, CA 92064
MLS #: 086007673

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-086007673-14540_Red_Hawk_Ln_Poway_CA_92064

1. Is this one of the better neighborhoods in Poway ?
2. It seems a bit too “way out there” (i.e. the aerial view on ZipRealty show mountain & bare rocks), is that right ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[svelte]

It looks to be on a private road. That would be my biggest concern.

The biggest neighborhood food fights I’ve seen haven’t been about kids or pets or noise. They’ve been about who is going to pay for repaving the private road, and how the cost will be fairly apportioned.

The first house on the street will always think they should pay less because they use less of the road, while the last house on the street will always think the cost should be divided equally.

[gn]

It looks to be on a private road.

For my own benefits, how does a private road looks different from a public one ? Can one tell by looking at aerial pictures ? Thanks. 

 

[svelte]

While you can’t be 100% sure by looking at the aerial pictures, there are tell-tale signs.

From my experience, the strongest indicator to the weakest are:
– Width of the roadway
– Lack of curbs
– Lack of sidewalks

Most cities have standards for all those things in newly developed areas (and it looks like the homes on that road are new). Red Hawk Lane is narrow without curbs or sidewalks.

It may be outside of the city and in the county instead, in which case I think there is more leeway and it is harder to determine public vs private.

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong here.

[svelte]

While you can’t be 100% sure by looking at the aerial pictures, there are tell-tale signs.

From my experience, the strongest indicator to the weakest are:
– Width of the roadway
– Lack of curbs
– Lack of sidewalks

Most cities have standards for all those things in newly developed areas (and it looks like the homes on that road are new). Red Hawk Lane is narrow without curbs or sidewalks.

It may be outside of the city and in the county instead, in which case I think there is more leeway and it is harder to determine public vs private.

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong here.

[svelte]

While you can’t be 100% sure by looking at the aerial pictures, there are tell-tale signs.

From my experience, the strongest indicator to the weakest are:
– Width of the roadway
– Lack of curbs
– Lack of sidewalks

Most cities have standards for all those things in newly developed areas (and it looks like the homes on that road are new). Red Hawk Lane is narrow without curbs or sidewalks.

It may be outside of the city and in the county instead, in which case I think there is more leeway and it is harder to determine public vs private.

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong here.

[svelte]

While you can’t be 100% sure by looking at the aerial pictures, there are tell-tale signs.

From my experience, the strongest indicator to the weakest are:
– Width of the roadway
– Lack of curbs
– Lack of sidewalks

Most cities have standards for all those things in newly developed areas (and it looks like the homes on that road are new). Red Hawk Lane is narrow without curbs or sidewalks.

It may be outside of the city and in the county instead, in which case I think there is more leeway and it is harder to determine public vs private.

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong here.

[svelte]

While you can’t be 100% sure by looking at the aerial pictures, there are tell-tale signs.

From my experience, the strongest indicator to the weakest are:
– Width of the roadway
– Lack of curbs
– Lack of sidewalks

Most cities have standards for all those things in newly developed areas (and it looks like the homes on that road are new). Red Hawk Lane is narrow without curbs or sidewalks.

It may be outside of the city and in the county instead, in which case I think there is more leeway and it is harder to determine public vs private.

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong here.

[gn]

It looks to be on a private road.

For my own benefits, how does a private road looks different from a public one ? Can one tell by looking at aerial pictures ? Thanks. 

 

[gn]

It looks to be on a private road.

For my own benefits, how does a private road looks different from a public one ? Can one tell by looking at aerial pictures ? Thanks. 

 

[gn]

It looks to be on a private road.

For my own benefits, how does a private road looks different from a public one ? Can one tell by looking at aerial pictures ? Thanks. 

 

[gn]

It looks to be on a private road.

For my own benefits, how does a private road looks different from a public one ? Can one tell by looking at aerial pictures ? Thanks. 

 

[doublewide]

I thought I recognized that address..Just went back through my e-mails from April 2007, we looked at a rental at 14510 Red Hawk (the one on the corner) whereas I think the one you are looking at is at the end of the street.

Reasons why we did not rent the house:

Neighborhood is a hodge-podge of homes. There are some horse farms, some custom homes and some 1960’s homes all in the same square mile. Makes for some interesting smells and lawn art if you know what I mean. Since it’s all in kind of a valley there’s not a lot of breeze to clear out the eau de poo.

There was a huge honkin’ RV parked at the end of Red Hawk when we were there, we have a rule about living with people who think the street is their personal parking lot.

There was also a lot of construction at the time. Just up the road where Twin Peaks ends right under “Tooth Rock” there were 2 or 3 custom homes going in, lots of big trucks in and out and lots of dust being kicked up.

All in all, the homes on Red Hawk were nice enough but driving out to the end of Twin Peaks like that adds a lot to the commute and it’s a really eclectic mix of residents to say the least. These homes on Red Hawk and at the end of Twin Peaks really stood out because of the older, smaller homes on the same streets. Just a very odd vibe in that neighborhood.

Doublewide

[Aecetia]

There are mountain lions in that neighborhood if that is a concern. If you have small children or pets, they need to be kept inside.

[Aecetia]

There are mountain lions in that neighborhood if that is a concern. If you have small children or pets, they need to be kept inside.

[Aecetia]

There are mountain lions in that neighborhood if that is a concern. If you have small children or pets, they need to be kept inside.

[Aecetia]

There are mountain lions in that neighborhood if that is a concern. If you have small children or pets, they need to be kept inside.

[Aecetia]

There are mountain lions in that neighborhood if that is a concern. If you have small children or pets, they need to be kept inside.

[SD Realtor]

In general I think it is a pretty nice spot. As Doublewide said it is pretty far out there. This is one of those cases where if you like to be “out there” but not “way out there” this is not a bad spot. You do have some spottiness with old holdovers who have lived there for a very long time. Most of them have been bought out and custom homes have replaced them. I didn’t see the RV parked out there when I visited the home, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one there! As far as private roads go I would not worry about that to much. Yes the road must be maintained by the residents but there are many very nice places that have private roads.

It does get hot out there as well. Yes there is wildlife as well. You do want to keep your animals in the yard but I don’t think your kids will get eaten by mountain lions. My wife grew up near there and I haven’t heard of a Poway mountain lion attack yet. Lots of coyotes.

SD Realtor

[svelte]

If the area has private roads that are covered by an association or some other written agreement as to how often the roads will be paved and how the cost will be divided up, then I would tend to agree with you, SD Realtor. That is probably the type of very nice area you are referring to.

However, if there is no binding, written agreement among the homeowners as to how often the road will be paved and who picks up the cost, that is where the problems arise.

I have known several people in this situation and they’ve all warned me not to buy on a private road. They’ve been frustrated with neighbors thinking potholes are good enough for them…they’ll only pony up $$ when the road turns to dirt.

I would certainly check into whether Red Hawk Lane has a written road maintenance agreement. Somehow, I doubt it does.

[SD Realtor]

The homes in the transactions I have dealt with have been in more varying areas that are nicer including Granite Hills, Eucalyptus Hills, and some other spots. In each case there was not a formal HOA or agreement. I find that the income level of the neighbors is more important then a formal association of some type with regards to the quality of the private road including maintanence. What you are saying does not ring true, yet again, my experiences have been positive but perhaps only because I have been lucky so far.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

The homes in the transactions I have dealt with have been in more varying areas that are nicer including Granite Hills, Eucalyptus Hills, and some other spots. In each case there was not a formal HOA or agreement. I find that the income level of the neighbors is more important then a formal association of some type with regards to the quality of the private road including maintanence. What you are saying does not ring true, yet again, my experiences have been positive but perhaps only because I have been lucky so far.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

The homes in the transactions I have dealt with have been in more varying areas that are nicer including Granite Hills, Eucalyptus Hills, and some other spots. In each case there was not a formal HOA or agreement. I find that the income level of the neighbors is more important then a formal association of some type with regards to the quality of the private road including maintanence. What you are saying does not ring true, yet again, my experiences have been positive but perhaps only because I have been lucky so far.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

The homes in the transactions I have dealt with have been in more varying areas that are nicer including Granite Hills, Eucalyptus Hills, and some other spots. In each case there was not a formal HOA or agreement. I find that the income level of the neighbors is more important then a formal association of some type with regards to the quality of the private road including maintanence. What you are saying does not ring true, yet again, my experiences have been positive but perhaps only because I have been lucky so far.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

The homes in the transactions I have dealt with have been in more varying areas that are nicer including Granite Hills, Eucalyptus Hills, and some other spots. In each case there was not a formal HOA or agreement. I find that the income level of the neighbors is more important then a formal association of some type with regards to the quality of the private road including maintanence. What you are saying does not ring true, yet again, my experiences have been positive but perhaps only because I have been lucky so far.

SD Realtor

[svelte]

If the area has private roads that are covered by an association or some other written agreement as to how often the roads will be paved and how the cost will be divided up, then I would tend to agree with you, SD Realtor. That is probably the type of very nice area you are referring to.

However, if there is no binding, written agreement among the homeowners as to how often the road will be paved and who picks up the cost, that is where the problems arise.

I have known several people in this situation and they’ve all warned me not to buy on a private road. They’ve been frustrated with neighbors thinking potholes are good enough for them…they’ll only pony up $$ when the road turns to dirt.

I would certainly check into whether Red Hawk Lane has a written road maintenance agreement. Somehow, I doubt it does.

[svelte]

If the area has private roads that are covered by an association or some other written agreement as to how often the roads will be paved and how the cost will be divided up, then I would tend to agree with you, SD Realtor. That is probably the type of very nice area you are referring to.

However, if there is no binding, written agreement among the homeowners as to how often the road will be paved and who picks up the cost, that is where the problems arise.

I have known several people in this situation and they’ve all warned me not to buy on a private road. They’ve been frustrated with neighbors thinking potholes are good enough for them…they’ll only pony up $$ when the road turns to dirt.

I would certainly check into whether Red Hawk Lane has a written road maintenance agreement. Somehow, I doubt it does.

[svelte]

If the area has private roads that are covered by an association or some other written agreement as to how often the roads will be paved and how the cost will be divided up, then I would tend to agree with you, SD Realtor. That is probably the type of very nice area you are referring to.

However, if there is no binding, written agreement among the homeowners as to how often the road will be paved and who picks up the cost, that is where the problems arise.

I have known several people in this situation and they’ve all warned me not to buy on a private road. They’ve been frustrated with neighbors thinking potholes are good enough for them…they’ll only pony up $$ when the road turns to dirt.

I would certainly check into whether Red Hawk Lane has a written road maintenance agreement. Somehow, I doubt it does.

[svelte]

If the area has private roads that are covered by an association or some other written agreement as to how often the roads will be paved and how the cost will be divided up, then I would tend to agree with you, SD Realtor. That is probably the type of very nice area you are referring to.

However, if there is no binding, written agreement among the homeowners as to how often the road will be paved and who picks up the cost, that is where the problems arise.

I have known several people in this situation and they’ve all warned me not to buy on a private road. They’ve been frustrated with neighbors thinking potholes are good enough for them…they’ll only pony up $$ when the road turns to dirt.

I would certainly check into whether Red Hawk Lane has a written road maintenance agreement. Somehow, I doubt it does.

[SD Realtor]

In general I think it is a pretty nice spot. As Doublewide said it is pretty far out there. This is one of those cases where if you like to be “out there” but not “way out there” this is not a bad spot. You do have some spottiness with old holdovers who have lived there for a very long time. Most of them have been bought out and custom homes have replaced them. I didn’t see the RV parked out there when I visited the home, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one there! As far as private roads go I would not worry about that to much. Yes the road must be maintained by the residents but there are many very nice places that have private roads.

It does get hot out there as well. Yes there is wildlife as well. You do want to keep your animals in the yard but I don’t think your kids will get eaten by mountain lions. My wife grew up near there and I haven’t heard of a Poway mountain lion attack yet. Lots of coyotes.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

In general I think it is a pretty nice spot. As Doublewide said it is pretty far out there. This is one of those cases where if you like to be “out there” but not “way out there” this is not a bad spot. You do have some spottiness with old holdovers who have lived there for a very long time. Most of them have been bought out and custom homes have replaced them. I didn’t see the RV parked out there when I visited the home, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one there! As far as private roads go I would not worry about that to much. Yes the road must be maintained by the residents but there are many very nice places that have private roads.

It does get hot out there as well. Yes there is wildlife as well. You do want to keep your animals in the yard but I don’t think your kids will get eaten by mountain lions. My wife grew up near there and I haven’t heard of a Poway mountain lion attack yet. Lots of coyotes.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

In general I think it is a pretty nice spot. As Doublewide said it is pretty far out there. This is one of those cases where if you like to be “out there” but not “way out there” this is not a bad spot. You do have some spottiness with old holdovers who have lived there for a very long time. Most of them have been bought out and custom homes have replaced them. I didn’t see the RV parked out there when I visited the home, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one there! As far as private roads go I would not worry about that to much. Yes the road must be maintained by the residents but there are many very nice places that have private roads.

It does get hot out there as well. Yes there is wildlife as well. You do want to keep your animals in the yard but I don’t think your kids will get eaten by mountain lions. My wife grew up near there and I haven’t heard of a Poway mountain lion attack yet. Lots of coyotes.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

In general I think it is a pretty nice spot. As Doublewide said it is pretty far out there. This is one of those cases where if you like to be “out there” but not “way out there” this is not a bad spot. You do have some spottiness with old holdovers who have lived there for a very long time. Most of them have been bought out and custom homes have replaced them. I didn’t see the RV parked out there when I visited the home, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one there! As far as private roads go I would not worry about that to much. Yes the road must be maintained by the residents but there are many very nice places that have private roads.

It does get hot out there as well. Yes there is wildlife as well. You do want to keep your animals in the yard but I don’t think your kids will get eaten by mountain lions. My wife grew up near there and I haven’t heard of a Poway mountain lion attack yet. Lots of coyotes.

SD Realtor

[doublewide]

I thought I recognized that address..Just went back through my e-mails from April 2007, we looked at a rental at 14510 Red Hawk (the one on the corner) whereas I think the one you are looking at is at the end of the street.

Reasons why we did not rent the house:

Neighborhood is a hodge-podge of homes. There are some horse farms, some custom homes and some 1960’s homes all in the same square mile. Makes for some interesting smells and lawn art if you know what I mean. Since it’s all in kind of a valley there’s not a lot of breeze to clear out the eau de poo.

There was a huge honkin’ RV parked at the end of Red Hawk when we were there, we have a rule about living with people who think the street is their personal parking lot.

There was also a lot of construction at the time. Just up the road where Twin Peaks ends right under “Tooth Rock” there were 2 or 3 custom homes going in, lots of big trucks in and out and lots of dust being kicked up.

All in all, the homes on Red Hawk were nice enough but driving out to the end of Twin Peaks like that adds a lot to the commute and it’s a really eclectic mix of residents to say the least. These homes on Red Hawk and at the end of Twin Peaks really stood out because of the older, smaller homes on the same streets. Just a very odd vibe in that neighborhood.

Doublewide

[doublewide]

I thought I recognized that address..Just went back through my e-mails from April 2007, we looked at a rental at 14510 Red Hawk (the one on the corner) whereas I think the one you are looking at is at the end of the street.

Reasons why we did not rent the house:

Neighborhood is a hodge-podge of homes. There are some horse farms, some custom homes and some 1960’s homes all in the same square mile. Makes for some interesting smells and lawn art if you know what I mean. Since it’s all in kind of a valley there’s not a lot of breeze to clear out the eau de poo.

There was a huge honkin’ RV parked at the end of Red Hawk when we were there, we have a rule about living with people who think the street is their personal parking lot.

There was also a lot of construction at the time. Just up the road where Twin Peaks ends right under “Tooth Rock” there were 2 or 3 custom homes going in, lots of big trucks in and out and lots of dust being kicked up.

All in all, the homes on Red Hawk were nice enough but driving out to the end of Twin Peaks like that adds a lot to the commute and it’s a really eclectic mix of residents to say the least. These homes on Red Hawk and at the end of Twin Peaks really stood out because of the older, smaller homes on the same streets. Just a very odd vibe in that neighborhood.

Doublewide

[doublewide]

I thought I recognized that address..Just went back through my e-mails from April 2007, we looked at a rental at 14510 Red Hawk (the one on the corner) whereas I think the one you are looking at is at the end of the street.

Reasons why we did not rent the house:

Neighborhood is a hodge-podge of homes. There are some horse farms, some custom homes and some 1960’s homes all in the same square mile. Makes for some interesting smells and lawn art if you know what I mean. Since it’s all in kind of a valley there’s not a lot of breeze to clear out the eau de poo.

There was a huge honkin’ RV parked at the end of Red Hawk when we were there, we have a rule about living with people who think the street is their personal parking lot.

There was also a lot of construction at the time. Just up the road where Twin Peaks ends right under “Tooth Rock” there were 2 or 3 custom homes going in, lots of big trucks in and out and lots of dust being kicked up.

All in all, the homes on Red Hawk were nice enough but driving out to the end of Twin Peaks like that adds a lot to the commute and it’s a really eclectic mix of residents to say the least. These homes on Red Hawk and at the end of Twin Peaks really stood out because of the older, smaller homes on the same streets. Just a very odd vibe in that neighborhood.

Doublewide

[doublewide]

I thought I recognized that address..Just went back through my e-mails from April 2007, we looked at a rental at 14510 Red Hawk (the one on the corner) whereas I think the one you are looking at is at the end of the street.

Reasons why we did not rent the house:

Neighborhood is a hodge-podge of homes. There are some horse farms, some custom homes and some 1960’s homes all in the same square mile. Makes for some interesting smells and lawn art if you know what I mean. Since it’s all in kind of a valley there’s not a lot of breeze to clear out the eau de poo.

There was a huge honkin’ RV parked at the end of Red Hawk when we were there, we have a rule about living with people who think the street is their personal parking lot.

There was also a lot of construction at the time. Just up the road where Twin Peaks ends right under “Tooth Rock” there were 2 or 3 custom homes going in, lots of big trucks in and out and lots of dust being kicked up.

All in all, the homes on Red Hawk were nice enough but driving out to the end of Twin Peaks like that adds a lot to the commute and it’s a really eclectic mix of residents to say the least. These homes on Red Hawk and at the end of Twin Peaks really stood out because of the older, smaller homes on the same streets. Just a very odd vibe in that neighborhood.

Doublewide

[svelte]

It looks to be on a private road. That would be my biggest concern.

The biggest neighborhood food fights I’ve seen haven’t been about kids or pets or noise. They’ve been about who is going to pay for repaving the private road, and how the cost will be fairly apportioned.

The first house on the street will always think they should pay less because they use less of the road, while the last house on the street will always think the cost should be divided equally.

[svelte]

It looks to be on a private road. That would be my biggest concern.

The biggest neighborhood food fights I’ve seen haven’t been about kids or pets or noise. They’ve been about who is going to pay for repaving the private road, and how the cost will be fairly apportioned.

The first house on the street will always think they should pay less because they use less of the road, while the last house on the street will always think the cost should be divided equally.

[svelte]

It looks to be on a private road. That would be my biggest concern.

The biggest neighborhood food fights I’ve seen haven’t been about kids or pets or noise. They’ve been about who is going to pay for repaving the private road, and how the cost will be fairly apportioned.

The first house on the street will always think they should pay less because they use less of the road, while the last house on the street will always think the cost should be divided equally.

[svelte]

It looks to be on a private road. That would be my biggest concern.

The biggest neighborhood food fights I’ve seen haven’t been about kids or pets or noise. They’ve been about who is going to pay for repaving the private road, and how the cost will be fairly apportioned.

The first house on the street will always think they should pay less because they use less of the road, while the last house on the street will always think the cost should be divided equally.

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