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May 7, 2009 at 1:48 PM #395233May 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM #394570UCGalParticipant
I just noticed it’s $1000 for gas, electric and WATER.
If he’s irrigating a lot of land, that will definitely add up. And restrictions are coming – they start in San Diego in June and the rest of the county in July. (Different water districts, different restrictions.)
That’s probably the pumping charges he’s complaining about.
There is a lot you can do to reduce water consumption – usually with changing the landscaping to more appropriate species for your climate/zone. Grass lawns are not very practical for San Diego County. Yet we’re obsessed with them.
May 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM #394825UCGalParticipantI just noticed it’s $1000 for gas, electric and WATER.
If he’s irrigating a lot of land, that will definitely add up. And restrictions are coming – they start in San Diego in June and the rest of the county in July. (Different water districts, different restrictions.)
That’s probably the pumping charges he’s complaining about.
There is a lot you can do to reduce water consumption – usually with changing the landscaping to more appropriate species for your climate/zone. Grass lawns are not very practical for San Diego County. Yet we’re obsessed with them.
May 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM #395042UCGalParticipantI just noticed it’s $1000 for gas, electric and WATER.
If he’s irrigating a lot of land, that will definitely add up. And restrictions are coming – they start in San Diego in June and the rest of the county in July. (Different water districts, different restrictions.)
That’s probably the pumping charges he’s complaining about.
There is a lot you can do to reduce water consumption – usually with changing the landscaping to more appropriate species for your climate/zone. Grass lawns are not very practical for San Diego County. Yet we’re obsessed with them.
May 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM #395095UCGalParticipantI just noticed it’s $1000 for gas, electric and WATER.
If he’s irrigating a lot of land, that will definitely add up. And restrictions are coming – they start in San Diego in June and the rest of the county in July. (Different water districts, different restrictions.)
That’s probably the pumping charges he’s complaining about.
There is a lot you can do to reduce water consumption – usually with changing the landscaping to more appropriate species for your climate/zone. Grass lawns are not very practical for San Diego County. Yet we’re obsessed with them.
May 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM #395238UCGalParticipantI just noticed it’s $1000 for gas, electric and WATER.
If he’s irrigating a lot of land, that will definitely add up. And restrictions are coming – they start in San Diego in June and the rest of the county in July. (Different water districts, different restrictions.)
That’s probably the pumping charges he’s complaining about.
There is a lot you can do to reduce water consumption – usually with changing the landscaping to more appropriate species for your climate/zone. Grass lawns are not very practical for San Diego County. Yet we’re obsessed with them.
May 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM #394635EugeneParticipant[quote=UCGal]I think there’s some truth to the fees adding up.
We had $46 for electrical use on our last bill – but only $28 of that was for electricity – the rest was bond charges, transmission, and the $24.92 “distribution” charge. Electricity was only 61% of the “total electrical costs” on the bill.
Does anyone know if those fees go away if you DO put on panels. Lets say your electrical use is 10% because you’ve got solar panels.. Do all the fees get reduced by 10%.
(You don’t want to put on more panels than you consumption because then you’re just subsidizing SDG&E… so you size slightly less than your usage.)[/quote]You are charged by the kilowatt-hour. SDG&E gives you the breakdown of your charges in two different ways to confuse you, but the bottom line is, each additional kilowatt-hour adds X to your bill. Kilowatt-hours up to baseline (around 11 kwh/day) cost 13 cents. These 13 cents consist of usage charge, bond charge, distribution charge, etc. etc. but that’s not really important to you. Kilowatt-hours between 100-130% of baseline cost 15 cents. Kilowatt-hours above 130% of baseline cost 30+ cents.
Energy generated by your solar panels offsets energy you spend. If you spend 10 kwh/day and panels generate 3 kwh/day, you pay for 7 kwh.
Your usage seems to be barely above baseline, solar panels would take a very long time to pay for themselves, even if you install them by yourself.
May 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM #394890EugeneParticipant[quote=UCGal]I think there’s some truth to the fees adding up.
We had $46 for electrical use on our last bill – but only $28 of that was for electricity – the rest was bond charges, transmission, and the $24.92 “distribution” charge. Electricity was only 61% of the “total electrical costs” on the bill.
Does anyone know if those fees go away if you DO put on panels. Lets say your electrical use is 10% because you’ve got solar panels.. Do all the fees get reduced by 10%.
(You don’t want to put on more panels than you consumption because then you’re just subsidizing SDG&E… so you size slightly less than your usage.)[/quote]You are charged by the kilowatt-hour. SDG&E gives you the breakdown of your charges in two different ways to confuse you, but the bottom line is, each additional kilowatt-hour adds X to your bill. Kilowatt-hours up to baseline (around 11 kwh/day) cost 13 cents. These 13 cents consist of usage charge, bond charge, distribution charge, etc. etc. but that’s not really important to you. Kilowatt-hours between 100-130% of baseline cost 15 cents. Kilowatt-hours above 130% of baseline cost 30+ cents.
Energy generated by your solar panels offsets energy you spend. If you spend 10 kwh/day and panels generate 3 kwh/day, you pay for 7 kwh.
Your usage seems to be barely above baseline, solar panels would take a very long time to pay for themselves, even if you install them by yourself.
May 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM #395108EugeneParticipant[quote=UCGal]I think there’s some truth to the fees adding up.
We had $46 for electrical use on our last bill – but only $28 of that was for electricity – the rest was bond charges, transmission, and the $24.92 “distribution” charge. Electricity was only 61% of the “total electrical costs” on the bill.
Does anyone know if those fees go away if you DO put on panels. Lets say your electrical use is 10% because you’ve got solar panels.. Do all the fees get reduced by 10%.
(You don’t want to put on more panels than you consumption because then you’re just subsidizing SDG&E… so you size slightly less than your usage.)[/quote]You are charged by the kilowatt-hour. SDG&E gives you the breakdown of your charges in two different ways to confuse you, but the bottom line is, each additional kilowatt-hour adds X to your bill. Kilowatt-hours up to baseline (around 11 kwh/day) cost 13 cents. These 13 cents consist of usage charge, bond charge, distribution charge, etc. etc. but that’s not really important to you. Kilowatt-hours between 100-130% of baseline cost 15 cents. Kilowatt-hours above 130% of baseline cost 30+ cents.
Energy generated by your solar panels offsets energy you spend. If you spend 10 kwh/day and panels generate 3 kwh/day, you pay for 7 kwh.
Your usage seems to be barely above baseline, solar panels would take a very long time to pay for themselves, even if you install them by yourself.
May 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM #395160EugeneParticipant[quote=UCGal]I think there’s some truth to the fees adding up.
We had $46 for electrical use on our last bill – but only $28 of that was for electricity – the rest was bond charges, transmission, and the $24.92 “distribution” charge. Electricity was only 61% of the “total electrical costs” on the bill.
Does anyone know if those fees go away if you DO put on panels. Lets say your electrical use is 10% because you’ve got solar panels.. Do all the fees get reduced by 10%.
(You don’t want to put on more panels than you consumption because then you’re just subsidizing SDG&E… so you size slightly less than your usage.)[/quote]You are charged by the kilowatt-hour. SDG&E gives you the breakdown of your charges in two different ways to confuse you, but the bottom line is, each additional kilowatt-hour adds X to your bill. Kilowatt-hours up to baseline (around 11 kwh/day) cost 13 cents. These 13 cents consist of usage charge, bond charge, distribution charge, etc. etc. but that’s not really important to you. Kilowatt-hours between 100-130% of baseline cost 15 cents. Kilowatt-hours above 130% of baseline cost 30+ cents.
Energy generated by your solar panels offsets energy you spend. If you spend 10 kwh/day and panels generate 3 kwh/day, you pay for 7 kwh.
Your usage seems to be barely above baseline, solar panels would take a very long time to pay for themselves, even if you install them by yourself.
May 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM #395301EugeneParticipant[quote=UCGal]I think there’s some truth to the fees adding up.
We had $46 for electrical use on our last bill – but only $28 of that was for electricity – the rest was bond charges, transmission, and the $24.92 “distribution” charge. Electricity was only 61% of the “total electrical costs” on the bill.
Does anyone know if those fees go away if you DO put on panels. Lets say your electrical use is 10% because you’ve got solar panels.. Do all the fees get reduced by 10%.
(You don’t want to put on more panels than you consumption because then you’re just subsidizing SDG&E… so you size slightly less than your usage.)[/quote]You are charged by the kilowatt-hour. SDG&E gives you the breakdown of your charges in two different ways to confuse you, but the bottom line is, each additional kilowatt-hour adds X to your bill. Kilowatt-hours up to baseline (around 11 kwh/day) cost 13 cents. These 13 cents consist of usage charge, bond charge, distribution charge, etc. etc. but that’s not really important to you. Kilowatt-hours between 100-130% of baseline cost 15 cents. Kilowatt-hours above 130% of baseline cost 30+ cents.
Energy generated by your solar panels offsets energy you spend. If you spend 10 kwh/day and panels generate 3 kwh/day, you pay for 7 kwh.
Your usage seems to be barely above baseline, solar panels would take a very long time to pay for themselves, even if you install them by yourself.
May 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM #394650NotCrankyParticipantNice house and property… he did a good job. Must be very disappointing. I saw several similar cases of this in Jamul.
Here are a few things I see on water/energy consumption:
The new vegetation on all those slopes takes a lot more water to get started then to keep going. Even Ice plant has to be watered plenty to get started. He had no choice but to put this vegetation in as a condition of his permits. The lawn since it is on a flat area was optional. If he has wierd pumping fees this can get expensive.
The attics appear to be minimally ventilated(people don’t like the looks of vents). There may be a power ventilator in the regular attic sections,if there are any. With vaulted cielings like the house has,there isn’t much air circulation above and below the cieling. It has relatively tall exterior walls and minimal eve overhang. This is all a combination for lots for heating and AC. I like the eve detail but it doesn’t knock down any sun.It is fire resistive though.
May 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM #394905NotCrankyParticipantNice house and property… he did a good job. Must be very disappointing. I saw several similar cases of this in Jamul.
Here are a few things I see on water/energy consumption:
The new vegetation on all those slopes takes a lot more water to get started then to keep going. Even Ice plant has to be watered plenty to get started. He had no choice but to put this vegetation in as a condition of his permits. The lawn since it is on a flat area was optional. If he has wierd pumping fees this can get expensive.
The attics appear to be minimally ventilated(people don’t like the looks of vents). There may be a power ventilator in the regular attic sections,if there are any. With vaulted cielings like the house has,there isn’t much air circulation above and below the cieling. It has relatively tall exterior walls and minimal eve overhang. This is all a combination for lots for heating and AC. I like the eve detail but it doesn’t knock down any sun.It is fire resistive though.
May 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM #395122NotCrankyParticipantNice house and property… he did a good job. Must be very disappointing. I saw several similar cases of this in Jamul.
Here are a few things I see on water/energy consumption:
The new vegetation on all those slopes takes a lot more water to get started then to keep going. Even Ice plant has to be watered plenty to get started. He had no choice but to put this vegetation in as a condition of his permits. The lawn since it is on a flat area was optional. If he has wierd pumping fees this can get expensive.
The attics appear to be minimally ventilated(people don’t like the looks of vents). There may be a power ventilator in the regular attic sections,if there are any. With vaulted cielings like the house has,there isn’t much air circulation above and below the cieling. It has relatively tall exterior walls and minimal eve overhang. This is all a combination for lots for heating and AC. I like the eve detail but it doesn’t knock down any sun.It is fire resistive though.
May 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM #395175NotCrankyParticipantNice house and property… he did a good job. Must be very disappointing. I saw several similar cases of this in Jamul.
Here are a few things I see on water/energy consumption:
The new vegetation on all those slopes takes a lot more water to get started then to keep going. Even Ice plant has to be watered plenty to get started. He had no choice but to put this vegetation in as a condition of his permits. The lawn since it is on a flat area was optional. If he has wierd pumping fees this can get expensive.
The attics appear to be minimally ventilated(people don’t like the looks of vents). There may be a power ventilator in the regular attic sections,if there are any. With vaulted cielings like the house has,there isn’t much air circulation above and below the cieling. It has relatively tall exterior walls and minimal eve overhang. This is all a combination for lots for heating and AC. I like the eve detail but it doesn’t knock down any sun.It is fire resistive though.
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