100,000 living for free in Inland Empire

[UCGal]

[quote=jpinpb]My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with this. I would not object to some of the stim money being used, WPA style, to improve infrastructure… at least that way taxpayers get the benefits of works projects (roads/dams/etc.). Much of SDSU was built under the WPA.

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Well, if one wanted to be positive. JP’s cousin is a solution to UCGal’s friend’s problem, a valuable contributor to the unemployment problem by not competing for a dwindling amount of jobs with other people that have higher living expenses.

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Well, if one wanted to be positive. JP’s cousin is a solution to UCGal’s friend’s problem, a valuable contributor to the unemployment problem by not competing for a dwindling amount of jobs with other people that have higher living expenses.

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Well, if one wanted to be positive. JP’s cousin is a solution to UCGal’s friend’s problem, a valuable contributor to the unemployment problem by not competing for a dwindling amount of jobs with other people that have higher living expenses.

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Well, if one wanted to be positive. JP’s cousin is a solution to UCGal’s friend’s problem, a valuable contributor to the unemployment problem by not competing for a dwindling amount of jobs with other people that have higher living expenses.

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Well, if one wanted to be positive. JP’s cousin is a solution to UCGal’s friend’s problem, a valuable contributor to the unemployment problem by not competing for a dwindling amount of jobs with other people that have higher living expenses.

[danielwis]

IN order to fish, the fish have to be biting. In order to “pull your self up by your boot straps”, you have to have boot straps. We are still losing jobs. Even after jobs return, it will take years to absorb all of the unemployed. Right now, the fish are not biting, and there are no boot straps.

I feel for people in these difficult times. I am fully employed. I have a very stable, highly specialized job in the health care field. I will never need to use unemployment insurance, but I fully empathize with those less fortunate.

As for the “living free” in the inland empire, I think it is a perfect temporary solution to a huge problem. Its probably the best non-government legislated stimulus possible. Its actually a better stimulus than anything the government has done to date. It helps keep people off the street, including innocent children. Many of these people are probably eating, that otherwise might not be eating very well.

And the banks are dragging their feet, for debatable reasons, so what difference does it make? And I don’t feel sorry for the banks, and I don’t feel sorry for greedy investors. But I certainly do feel sorry for average people, that bought an overly price inflated house, who have since fallen with the difficult economic times. Before we condemn average people for making a “poor economic decision”, remember that the drum to buy, with the messaging that “housing will never go down”, because “it never does”, and “if you don’t buy now, you’ll be priced out forever” was beating loudly for several years. Banks, realtors, and the Corporate Media all colluded to fool the public.

And how have we asked them to pay for what they did?

[danielwis]

IN order to fish, the fish have to be biting. In order to “pull your self up by your boot straps”, you have to have boot straps. We are still losing jobs. Even after jobs return, it will take years to absorb all of the unemployed. Right now, the fish are not biting, and there are no boot straps.

I feel for people in these difficult times. I am fully employed. I have a very stable, highly specialized job in the health care field. I will never need to use unemployment insurance, but I fully empathize with those less fortunate.

As for the “living free” in the inland empire, I think it is a perfect temporary solution to a huge problem. Its probably the best non-government legislated stimulus possible. Its actually a better stimulus than anything the government has done to date. It helps keep people off the street, including innocent children. Many of these people are probably eating, that otherwise might not be eating very well.

And the banks are dragging their feet, for debatable reasons, so what difference does it make? And I don’t feel sorry for the banks, and I don’t feel sorry for greedy investors. But I certainly do feel sorry for average people, that bought an overly price inflated house, who have since fallen with the difficult economic times. Before we condemn average people for making a “poor economic decision”, remember that the drum to buy, with the messaging that “housing will never go down”, because “it never does”, and “if you don’t buy now, you’ll be priced out forever” was beating loudly for several years. Banks, realtors, and the Corporate Media all colluded to fool the public.

And how have we asked them to pay for what they did?

[danielwis]

IN order to fish, the fish have to be biting. In order to “pull your self up by your boot straps”, you have to have boot straps. We are still losing jobs. Even after jobs return, it will take years to absorb all of the unemployed. Right now, the fish are not biting, and there are no boot straps.

I feel for people in these difficult times. I am fully employed. I have a very stable, highly specialized job in the health care field. I will never need to use unemployment insurance, but I fully empathize with those less fortunate.

As for the “living free” in the inland empire, I think it is a perfect temporary solution to a huge problem. Its probably the best non-government legislated stimulus possible. Its actually a better stimulus than anything the government has done to date. It helps keep people off the street, including innocent children. Many of these people are probably eating, that otherwise might not be eating very well.

And the banks are dragging their feet, for debatable reasons, so what difference does it make? And I don’t feel sorry for the banks, and I don’t feel sorry for greedy investors. But I certainly do feel sorry for average people, that bought an overly price inflated house, who have since fallen with the difficult economic times. Before we condemn average people for making a “poor economic decision”, remember that the drum to buy, with the messaging that “housing will never go down”, because “it never does”, and “if you don’t buy now, you’ll be priced out forever” was beating loudly for several years. Banks, realtors, and the Corporate Media all colluded to fool the public.

And how have we asked them to pay for what they did?

[danielwis]

IN order to fish, the fish have to be biting. In order to “pull your self up by your boot straps”, you have to have boot straps. We are still losing jobs. Even after jobs return, it will take years to absorb all of the unemployed. Right now, the fish are not biting, and there are no boot straps.

I feel for people in these difficult times. I am fully employed. I have a very stable, highly specialized job in the health care field. I will never need to use unemployment insurance, but I fully empathize with those less fortunate.

As for the “living free” in the inland empire, I think it is a perfect temporary solution to a huge problem. Its probably the best non-government legislated stimulus possible. Its actually a better stimulus than anything the government has done to date. It helps keep people off the street, including innocent children. Many of these people are probably eating, that otherwise might not be eating very well.

And the banks are dragging their feet, for debatable reasons, so what difference does it make? And I don’t feel sorry for the banks, and I don’t feel sorry for greedy investors. But I certainly do feel sorry for average people, that bought an overly price inflated house, who have since fallen with the difficult economic times. Before we condemn average people for making a “poor economic decision”, remember that the drum to buy, with the messaging that “housing will never go down”, because “it never does”, and “if you don’t buy now, you’ll be priced out forever” was beating loudly for several years. Banks, realtors, and the Corporate Media all colluded to fool the public.

And how have we asked them to pay for what they did?

[danielwis]

IN order to fish, the fish have to be biting. In order to “pull your self up by your boot straps”, you have to have boot straps. We are still losing jobs. Even after jobs return, it will take years to absorb all of the unemployed. Right now, the fish are not biting, and there are no boot straps.

I feel for people in these difficult times. I am fully employed. I have a very stable, highly specialized job in the health care field. I will never need to use unemployment insurance, but I fully empathize with those less fortunate.

As for the “living free” in the inland empire, I think it is a perfect temporary solution to a huge problem. Its probably the best non-government legislated stimulus possible. Its actually a better stimulus than anything the government has done to date. It helps keep people off the street, including innocent children. Many of these people are probably eating, that otherwise might not be eating very well.

And the banks are dragging their feet, for debatable reasons, so what difference does it make? And I don’t feel sorry for the banks, and I don’t feel sorry for greedy investors. But I certainly do feel sorry for average people, that bought an overly price inflated house, who have since fallen with the difficult economic times. Before we condemn average people for making a “poor economic decision”, remember that the drum to buy, with the messaging that “housing will never go down”, because “it never does”, and “if you don’t buy now, you’ll be priced out forever” was beating loudly for several years. Banks, realtors, and the Corporate Media all colluded to fool the public.

And how have we asked them to pay for what they did?

[briansd1]

[quote=UCGal] A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.
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This friend would likely lose her house if her unemployment stopped and she’s unable to find a job.

Chronic unemployment will be with us for a some years.

It’s likely most professionals will experience unemployment at one time or another. It will change attitudes when engineers lose jobs regularly.

I remember back in the 1990s engineers for defense contractors lost jobs en masse in San Diego and had to move out of the area.

Time will tell….

[briansd1]

[quote=UCGal] A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.
[/quote]

This friend would likely lose her house if her unemployment stopped and she’s unable to find a job.

Chronic unemployment will be with us for a some years.

It’s likely most professionals will experience unemployment at one time or another. It will change attitudes when engineers lose jobs regularly.

I remember back in the 1990s engineers for defense contractors lost jobs en masse in San Diego and had to move out of the area.

Time will tell….

[briansd1]

[quote=UCGal] A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.
[/quote]

This friend would likely lose her house if her unemployment stopped and she’s unable to find a job.

Chronic unemployment will be with us for a some years.

It’s likely most professionals will experience unemployment at one time or another. It will change attitudes when engineers lose jobs regularly.

I remember back in the 1990s engineers for defense contractors lost jobs en masse in San Diego and had to move out of the area.

Time will tell….

[briansd1]

[quote=UCGal] A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.
[/quote]

This friend would likely lose her house if her unemployment stopped and she’s unable to find a job.

Chronic unemployment will be with us for a some years.

It’s likely most professionals will experience unemployment at one time or another. It will change attitudes when engineers lose jobs regularly.

I remember back in the 1990s engineers for defense contractors lost jobs en masse in San Diego and had to move out of the area.

Time will tell….

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