[quote=zk]Right-wing media are destroying our country and trying to take the world down with us. These fox-watching fools voted for this.
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We already debated the AGW subject to death, and it didn’t hold up. ‘The math doesn’t add up’. I can find the thread where there was a debate between Dr. Chaos and myself.. I don’t feel like repeating it, and I don’t think that most of you have the qualifications that he has. Quick ending summary was that even Hansen of NOAA had to agree that water was not accurately reflected in the climate models. I had even supplied a link supporting such. The underlying problem is that water is a significantly stronger greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. It also occurs in higher concentrations than carbon dioxide. For example, while worried about carbon dioxide at 400ppm, air at 70 degrees Fahrenheit and 37 percent humidity (which is on the dry side), contains more than 9200ppm of water. Carbon dioxide does not appear in significant concentrations in the upper atmosphere – which would be required for a greenhouse gas (why is there an ‘alpine tree line’?) Some claim that it is because cold or snow cover lasts too long – but this is dis-proven by visiting areas of Alaska. Final thing to consider; it takes 1 Calorie to heat 1 gram of water 1 degree Centigrade, but it takes more than 500 Calories to vaporize the same amount of water. When it condenses in the upper atmosphere, it releases that same energy from the planet.
So while we are chasing this carbon dioxide ghost, we are ignoring some real and critical problems. Do you know that most Third World countries dump their sewage into rivers and oceans almost completely untreated? This exposes the ocean and its residents to human viruses including HPV, AIDS. It also exposes the ocean to human hormones which have been proven to affect fish. At the time of the Olympics, Rio was treating less than 25% of their sewage (if you are really interested, I might be able to dig up that study, though I think it is still accessible on the web).
With the money we have thrown at the IPCC on this designer cause, we could have fixed a significant portion of the Third World clean water and sanitation problems. By the way, take look at studies showing how lack of clean water an sanitation adversely affect child development, including mental development.
By the way, the current Paris accord puts minimal restrictions on China, while putting much more significant restrictions on the United States. Currently China produces approximately twice the carbon dioxide that the United States does – not to mention airborne particulates that also include mercury, lead and sulfur.
