whoops, looks like my browser cache didn’t update this thread for half the day.
bgates, i respect your effort in drawing the WW2 analogy, but i disagree. the flaw imo is that you cannot use the “idealism” principle with the “expedient” one.
it’s also expedient to send in swat teams into an alcoholic’s house, but it doesn’t mean we need to. WW2 was a ‘last option’ of sorts so the anything goes argument holds. the iraq war was not a last option.
i admire your tenacity. but i need convincing. there, i’ve said it in the nicest possible way. please scroll back to anything i’ve said. i don’t descend to personal attacks. we can have reason over emotion in this debate.