[quote=scaredyclassic] . . . however, i want a lexus.[/quote]There is no substitute for a Lexus, scaredy. If you really want to buy a reasonably-priced one, you will likely need to find a good one which is at least ten years old. They are out there, but you would likely need to pay cash for it. Also, you would need to find a good, fair and reasonable certified Toyota mechanic near you. They aren’t cheap to maintain properly … but worth every penny if you do (and take them on road trips one or more times per year). They are the ultimate dream road-trip vehicle … especially their older (roomier) luxury sedans :=]