[quote=Ren][quote=flu]I don’t get some of you folks. On one hand, some of you argue that the decline of the education is due to immigrants because immigrants pull the curve down. On the other hand, some of you also argue that certain immigrants are making schools overly competitive to the point that you don’t like the schools being so competitive for your own kids. So which is it?????[/quote]
Both 🙂
The former is worse, though. I don’t want my kids in the same class with kids who are incapable of learning and therefore occupy themselves with distracting the kids who do.
I also don’t want my kids surrounded by the product of tiger moms (who, IMO, are sacrificing good childhood memories for a slightly increased chance at later success, which is APPALLING), damaging their self-worth because I refuse to make them endure 6 hours of homework and music lessons every night.
The only answer is segregation! But seriously, I have an answer for myself (pick the district that suits me), but those with lesser incomes don’t always have that choice.[/quote]
flu, I have a problem with the influx of foreign students being admitted to UC and CSU campuses (but mostly UC). In addition, BOTH UC and CSU admit a LOT of out-of-state students. Why? Because these students pay nearly triple the fees that in-state students do, and, after ten fee hikes since 2005, CSU is supposedly “broke.”
UC and CSU were created and set up to serve primarily native Californians and/or in-state-resident students. It is currently very difficult for mid-B and high-B-average HS grads to get accepted to a CA university as a freshman, due to all these “foreign” students taking their slots. Due to concurrent budget cuts, if all these “B” CA HS grads still won’t be able to get accepted into a major program of study (as a junior) at a UC/CSU campus (after completing GE’s at a “community college”), their only hope for finishing college is either private school (exorbitantly-priced Univ of Phoenix, for example) or leave the state and either pay out-of-state tuition there or take a break from school and work there for at least a year to establish residency before enrolling as a junior. The vast majority of CA families can’t afford out-of-state tuition, ESP if they will have more than one child attending college.
This situation is a bunch of BS, IMO. The “bar” is now ridiculously high for admission to many CA public university campuses. The avg CSU campus now wants a 3.91 HS GPA for an entering freshman!
A high school grad with a 3.5 to 3.75 GPA was not a “bad student.” I feel a “qualified” CA HS grad who attended all 13 years of their public school in CA “deserves” to be admitted to a university in their home state.
“Qualified” does not necessarily mean only 4.77 GPA HS grads (with multiple HS AP credits).
I don’t feel CA universities “owe” admission slots to foreigners and out-of-state students at the expense of deserving in-state students being admitted, whilst their parents are paying taxes to run these institutions. It is WRONG and other states realize the importance of giving their “own” HS grad-residents admission priority.
Even SUHSD’s well-known “Compact for Success” program was eliminated (guaranteed freshman admission to SDSU upon a 3.3 graduating GPA).
And Ren, picking a district that “suits you” will NOT enable you to control WHO attends your child’s school …. not even if you are able to choose a particular school within it. As a parent, you have no say in the matter and never will … even if you choose a private school for your child. Your “family income” makes no difference.
All parents who think they can (or will be able to) “cherry-pick” their kid’s classmates need to put their “control freakery” by the wayside and allow their children to experience “diversity.”
Or, you can try your hand at “home-schooling.” And good luck :=)
