[quote=pri_dk][quote]No offense, but why do so many people continue with the lies about public sector workers not taking a hit?[/quote]
Nobody said they aren’t “taking a hit.” We saying that they are offering only a token, insignificant amount.
And they are using these minor concessions as a propaganda tool – trying to convince the voters that the public-sector employees are somehow the victims.
The facts clearly show which side is telling the truth.
The changes that are happening in public-sector compensation only address future pension obligations. They do not address the crux of the problem: The commitments that have already been made.
These changes you keep pointing out will not solve the problem, they will at best only help prevent it from becoming worse.
Apparently you didn’t even read (or comprehend) the very basic facts laid out in the OP article:
California’s unfunded pension liabilities are staggering, he points out; they have been estimated at between $240 billion and $500 billion. Plugging that hole will increasingly crowd out other things that Democrats care about, such as schools, parks and courts. But Mr Brown’s plan might save at best $11 billion over 30 years.
Even Brown’s current proposal, which is already facing resistance from the public-sector employees, will resolve less than 5% of the shortfall.
The real question is this:
Why do you continue to claim that these token concessions offered by a few public-sector employees will somehow make this massive problem go away?
You ignore the hundreds of thousands of state employees who will receive million-dollar (plus) retirement packages, and instead focus on the fraction of (mostly young) employees who will see their compensation cut to market levels.
There is no evidence that public-sector employees are making any sincere effort to address the problem. I don’t blame them, if I had managed to hustle such a sweet deal, I would be reluctant to give any of it back also. But as a taxpayer (their employer), I’m going to do what I can to make things right.
We are sacrificing the education of the next generation in order to allow a minority from our own generation to retire early and in extraordinary comfort. It’s disgusting.[/quote]
I can point to numerous posts where uninformed people have claimed that public employees are not taking a hit.
Not sure where you got the “extraordinary comfort” part, either. Most public employees live very modestly and have unremarkable pensions. The MSM likes to glom onto the very rare, sensational story about someone who got a $200K pension due to pension spiking, etc. That is NOT the norm…not by a long shot.
The concessions are neither “token,” nor insignificant. Where did you get your info? It’s obviously not from actual knowledge about the negotiations going on between unions and their employers.
The only person who is unable to read or comprehend is YOU, pri-dk. In every debate we’ve had, I’ve been the only one to cite facts and link to relevant articles, etc. You just rant and resort to personal attacks. Try doing some research for a change instead of resorting to personal attacks. You’re not scoring any points with your tactics.
If you want to debate, that’s fine. But keep it honest, clean, and objective. Try focusing on the topics being discussed rather than trying to shut somebody down with your idiotic, unfounded, disparaging comments.
