[quote=no_such_reality]Isn’t this a side effect of our primary education system being geared towards everyone goes to college?
Cali has 500,000 kids per grade. At 60% college attempt rate, the UC and CS systems need 1.5 million seats to accommodate.
They currently have enrollment around 700,0000[/quote]
Well, if the same percentage holds true for the CSU, that means that roughly 15.5% of 700,000 public university seats in the state (108,500) are going to out-of-state and out-of-country students each and every year with incoming OOS/OOC applicants replacing those who graduated. (I suspect this percentage varies wildly by campus as I can’t imagine OOC and OOS applicants are clamoring to get accepted into campuses located in CA’s “armpits,” (ex: Bakersfield, Fresno, Merced and Chico).)
The story below is ridiculous. By all accounts, this applicant should have gotten accepted into the UC … yes, even to the “flagships.” Perhaps she was only offered Merced for being in the top 9% of her class and so elected to take the 4-year full-ride scholarship offered to her on the east coast … and I don’t blame her. She’s apparently “good enough for full ride at an Ivy” … but not given the time of day at UC in her home state!
UC schools harm local students by admitting so many from out of state, audit finds
As a student at South Pasadena High School, Katherine Uriarte aced six Advanced Placement classes, got top scores on her ACT, served in student government and nailed a summer internship at Caltech.
It wasn’t enough to get into UCLA or UC Berkeley.
The daughter of a Mexican immigrant, Uriarte still realized her dream of becoming the first in her family to go to college. She is now a freshman at Columbia University in New York City with a full-ride scholarship from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. But she said she felt Californians like herself were losing out to a growing tide of students from other states and countries who want to go to UC schools.
“I think they should prioritize California students,” she said.
A new state audit agrees ….
UC officials insist that nonresident students don’t displace Californians. Instead, they say, the nearly $25,000 in additional tuition that nonresidents pay each year has allowed UC to enroll thousands more California students than the system could otherwise afford. Tuition and fees for out-of-state students totaled $38,108 this academic year, compared with $13,400 for in-state students.
Without the extra money from out-of-state students, Californians could have faced an additional $2,500 in tuition — a roughly 20% boost, Napolitano said.
Tuition and fees have doubled since the 2008 recession, but have remained flat — except for one fee increase — for the last five years as part of an agreement between Napolitano and Gov. Jerry Brown that sent more than $3 billion in new dollars to the UC system.
In a separate deal, UC agreed to admit 5,000 additional California students for the fall 2016 term in exchange for $25 million more and a continued lid on tuition increases.
“Providing adequate state funding is the best way to increase the number of California students enrolled at UC,” said a special report on admissions and finances released Tuesday by university officials in anticipation of the audit…
Essentially, the UC is claiming that they need more state funding to admit in-state residents and the presence of OOS/OOC students actually make it possible for them to admit more in-state residents. It seems here as if our native Cali kids are considered “charity cases” or “less than optimal picks for admission” by the Regents due to our much lower tuition fees than OOS students pay (all students pay the same campus fees and UC/CSU fees).
By the Numbers Audit accuses University of California of favoring out-of-state students
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A scathing new state audit accuses the University of California of hurting in-state students by increasingly admitting applicants from outside the Golden State. The proportion of out-of-state students has grown from about 5% of the student body in 2008 to 15.5% today.
More in-state applicants
Despite an increase in applications from in-state students, the University of California’s resident undergraduate enrollment has remained flat.
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Out-of-state-undergrads on the rise
The number of out-of-state undergraduates has more than tripled since 2008. UC officials said they increased nonresident students, who pay an extra $25,000 in tuition per year, to allow them to accept more Californians in the face of massive budget cuts imposed after the 2008 recession.
