No, I haven’t answered the question. Straw man argument. You’ll also note I haven’t expressed any opinion on any immigration issues. Indeed it begs the question. Your question is based on an unsubstantiated premise.
Sorry, but asking about Jose vs Juan is not a straw man argument. It just points to what I feel is the hypocrisy of your position because you seem to believe that it is ok to take from Joe’s kids to fund Jose’s.. but not to take from Juan’s. The answer is a simple yes or no. Either way, the available funds for education are effectively finite. Something has to give.. lower quality education or more income taxes. Illegals don’t pay income taxes. Straw Man argument
The only difference between Juan and Joe is just their ethnic origins, therefore using Juan is not a distorted version of Joe.
My position has nothing to do with arrogance, sense of superiority and entitlement. It is arrogant and displays a sense of entitlement to be illegally within a country and to expect to be served with all of the ‘entitlements’ that a legal citizen pays for, while at the same time, paying for none if it.
Two entirely different issues. And more straw. Another conclusion based on an unsupported premise.
Huh? do you even know what a Straw man argument is? My second sentence is almost the definition for an abnormal sense of entitlement. I have also supported that they do not pay for it.
The following is a much better argument on your part, but if you read your reference all the way to the end, you will find that it does not support your contention. It also echoes what I said about articles that supposedly debunk the cost of illegal aliens within the U.S.
You only “know” that illegal immigrants don’t pay their fair share if you ignore the facts.
See the last paragraph of your own link reference for the answer on this.
BTW:
To have a TIN, which I mentioned earlier, requires a greencard. If you have a greencard in this country, you are a ‘legal’ alien.. not illegally in this country. SS numbers are only issued to citizens. This is the issue I pointed out earlier. I have no problem with foreigners admitted to this country and working under a greencard/TIN. This is much different than a person within this country illegally– and without a greencard and thereby without a TIN.
But even if one is paid “under the table” where neither the employer nor employee report the income to the IRS, other taxes are paid by illegal immigrants. This would include mainly sales taxes on items purchased in most states and localities.
As I mentioned before, the US is not a VAT tax system. It is an income tax. If it was a VAT system, our sales taxes would be north of 15%.
Additional proof that this doc does not support your contention (last paragraph):
While some argue that illegal immigrants do not pay their fair share of taxes compared to the value of government services they receive, this is partially a normative question that needs to be accompanied by more empirical evidence to support or refute.
I never said that illegals don’t pay some taxes, just not in proportion to their general cost to the U.S..
