[quote=Leorocky]By starting a company no one is taking anything, they are creating – wealth, jobs etc. I’d love to pay based on what I use but as I said before – how will all those poor people pay for all those benefits they get?
Employers are not required to “cover” anything when it comes to employees. A job pays a fair wage for the value added and may or may not have extra benefits (again, depends on the work and value add) It is everyone’s individual responsibility to prepare themselves for and to find work that takes care of them. The existence of government benefits does not mean employers are “taking”. Government benefits are an independent entity designed to help people who can’t otherwise make it regardless of whether they work full time or not at all.[/quote]
Again, you may or may not be giving or taking if you open a business. It depends entirely on what you pay vs. what you take. One would have to dig into the numbers to see if you’re a net taker or giver.
It’s ridiculous to think that people are being paid a “fair wage” for their labor. I’ve highlighted some examples in this very thread that disproves this incredibly naive notion of a “fair and free” labor/employment market. There is no balance of power in the absence of unions, and that precludes the possibility of their ever being a “free market” where labor and employment are concerned.
The fact that Walmart’s employees can fall back on taxpayer-provided social programs is what makes it possible for Walmart to pay such meager wages/benefits. Walmart is the beneficiary and heavy user of these social programs, not the employees. Are they net givers or takers? We can’t really know unless we spend an inordinate amount of time culling through massive amounts of financial data.
Every dollar of profit made by capital comes from somebody else — either their workers, their customers, or their suppliers.