[quote=jstoesz]arguing with these two or three about retirement is pointless. You mine as well play tennis with a wall.
Now if you want to hear their opinons on housing in sd they are far more spot on. Move along. No clarity or agreement will be found here.
BTW, to all who doubt moving away. MN is winning the day in my family! WIth a few more long drives to Southern California (the last one did not go well), We will never live there again! But I will miss the sailing.[/quote]
With all due respect, it’s those of us who are debating on behalf of public pensions who know what we are talking about. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen painfully ignorant and totally incorrect claims being made by the “anti-union” crowd.
Some of us have had to correct people multiple times when they’ve made these errors. These are the same incorrect “facts” being pushed by the capitalist-controlled MSM, so we know where the information is coming from (as opposed to someone having actual knowledge and experience WRT public employment and the way their compensation works).
It might be more instructive to hear from those who actually understand how the sytem works and who have experience with how these negotiations work and who understand how we got to have a “pension crisis” in the first place. (Hint: it’s not because of “greedy workers.”)