[quote=Hobie]Another thing regarding the mass die off you mentioned. Oh, and by the way, I don’t have AppleTV so I can’t view the show, so I’ll just wing it.
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[quote=Hobie]I won’t go toe to toe with ya as we have a difference but I would think any discussion about global warming etc really needs to have more research on the effect our oceans have and for that matter, the sun.[/quote]
WRT to the effect of CO2 and the ocean(s) get some pop-corn and cosy up to watch:
FYI lots of basic research has been done and various documentaries have been made (check out the two links above BEFORE the content is removed)
bottom line is the topic of climate change is difficult to grasp because its very complex and chaotic in nature and happens in a timeframe many find difficult to grasp (i.e. at the very fastest things take place over periods of decades and longer). Therefore few humans have interest in devoting that much effort to understanding the topic) because let’s face it, we are a species that likes instant gratification.
ALSO it does not help when hollywood movies like “The Day After Tomorrow,”
that shows a helicopter Crash (because of a flash freeze)
too few understand this could not happen because 99.999% of the population do not consider the physics of pressure/temp make this movie scene impossible BUT SADLY the movie audience and elected officials are more likely to have the same knowledge/understanding as the individuals shown in the following video
so it is w/ 99.999% of the general population who DO NOT have a strategic understanding of the complex math/science involved with issue(s) of climate change (its not just an economic problem where american’s decide to downsize from a ford expedition to a toyota “pious” because of some mis-guided environmental/soc-economic guilt trip)
put another way when scientist (who work in the area) say mapping the ice in greenland AND are are very concerned looking at the data (they aren’t doing it for the big bucks or social glory or for the most part thinking about a “product” to sell in the market as a response to the issue)
over the years I’ve managed to see up close and many things around the world WRT what has happened to the environment from iceland to central asia (in the former soviet republics) when I saw and that was once an inland sea
and if you had the opportunity to see the $hit I’ve seen (as well as understanding the math/science) then I’m sure you would have have a very different world view and grave concern of what is happening because the over-all TRENDS are not good!!!
As I see it, its possible to use knowledge to economically benefit from climate change (to what degree we attribute its cause is man-made or not isn’t a question that is helpful because no-one wants to take the blame)
So what economic benefit does knowing the math/science help get me? As I see things it might buy me a first class cabin vs third class accomidations on the the planet we might as well call “titanic”