[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=AN][quote=FlyerInHi]I’m with shoveler. There will be more growth, either out or up. As much as I hate to stay it, shoveler is right, growth will likely continue to sprawl out because of NIMBYism.[/quote]
San Diego is building both out and up. For the up part, think Civita in Mission Valley, Stone Creek in Mira Mesa,and One Paseo in Carmel Valley. I’m sure others will come. Once we fully built out the “out” part, I can totally see other smaller cities w/in San Diego County would start to build up and have a more robust downtowns. I’m thinking a long the line of Gaslamp type of mix use developments in Carlsbad, Chula Vista, Poway, etc. But I think that day is a long time from now.[/quote]
All good points. I love Civita and that style of denser (but IMO still not dense enough) development. But it’s more upscale than the average housing budget.
As shoveler stated there are lots of development along the 15 and 215 all the way up the Cajon Pass. I know someone who a dozen foreclosures in Moreno Valley. The area is coming back and that was a smart move. Too bad he’s dead now, but I’m sure his widow appreciates the investment.[/quote] FIH, the Cajon Pass is being completely revamped. Just as you probably often do, I just came over it on the 8th and there was a 90 minute southbound delay in all lanes. I-215 will eventually be the exact same road as I-15 leading up to Cajon Pass, without the previous two highway switches. A year from now, it will be streamlined and smooth … an amazing feat to a person like me who at one time took Hwy 395 in/out of SD, which wasn’t really a “freeway!” But Cajon Pass is part public lands and is thus not buildable. Beyond it, in the high desert, yes, there is likely still reasonably-priced land (and newer homes) available. But these small cities are too far (and too inconvenient with Cajon Pass in the way) to live in for a 4-5 day week worker bee working south of the pass. They are also very hot & windy and inhospitable (like LV) but they don’t have the fancy infrastructure that LV does.
I’m glad County has wised up and gotten realistic about the cost of servicing outlying CFD’s before letting this developer split town with the eventual proceeds from the sale of their eventual units at Horse Creek Ridge. (I could not see from DR Horton’s website that they have ever built anything in SoCal, so likely wouldn’t care what happens after they fold up shop and leave the county.) When the Harmony Grove CFD was formed (the only other CFD County ever approved), HG had not yet been folded into Encinitas and was unincorporated (part of County). County did not have a lot of experience with CFD formation but they learned their lessons well from their brethren cities (ex: Chula Vista) who were nearly bankrupted from attempting to service multiple CFDs they (shortsightedly and quickly) approved in the nineties and early ’00’s. This was due to mass downgrades in tax assessments for 3 years pursuant to Prop 8, as well as mass tax defaulters until their lenders finally chose to take ownership of the property (years later) making it impossible for City to get reimbursed a fair amount of their “Teeter funds” for their daily operations (including the full penalties eventually paid by property owners or their lenders):
Almost ALL of these tax defaults occurred in 91913, 91914 and 91915 (where 95% of the CFD’s in CV lie) but residents of the entire city paid a heavy price in severely reduced services for years for these big blunders.
