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If energy prices are going to plummet… then what will be the cause of the collapse? (I apologize that I’m too lazy to read her entire thesis, as compelling as it might be. Most of the apocalyptos link the downfall of civilization to rising energy prices with all that implies.)[/quote]
Usually when (10s of) millions of people stop consuming because of job loss it takes strain off of the global commodity markets leading to lower prices, at least for a bit. A depression can be a good temporary mitigation of energy limitations. It does not do too much good when you are following price points to fix these problems, though. It especially is a problem when there needs to be a certain price for exploration. Markets never assess and price in how much is in the tank, it is information they do not process and actually, by default, lie to themselves in a childish, I-refuse-to-see-my-limits, fashion. Oil could spike sometime again in the near future unless we deflate some more. I’m expecting more deflation before the price shots up again, which could be years.
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I doubt she was “highly paid” at the Agri-Energy Producers’ Association of Ontario. Their most recent conference had 80 attendees (mostly farmers), if memory serves from my brief readings. I doubt the Association has more than a few employees. Not that that should have any bearing on the quality of her argument… I’m just sayin’.
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“highly paid” was a poor choice of words, well-paid is more like it. And well paid is relative to industry
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I think Ms. Foss is a dedicated environmentalist, not materially different from folks that work for the Sierra Club and other such outfits. Her worldview is set (she’s “all-in,” so to speak) and not subject to change. All of which is fine.
But her background is relevant when discussing the biases inherent in her point of view, just as anyone’s is. That’s my point. I wish her the best in Peru. I’ve never been there but I have a friend who has a home there. He tells me it’s quite lovely.[/quote]
Now, here is typical dave seamlessly shifting rationale. First she was a money- grubbing engineer pedaling her alt-energy systems through fear and then changed to a hard core environmentalist hell-bent on bringing down the global financial structure through blogging to save baby seals. Bravo!
I agree, though, everybody is biased to an extent. Some, so much so, they can’t see what is in front of their face and disregard all data that does not fit. Kind of like creationists(bankers) with fossils(Physical limitations)– suddenly it becomes conspiracy of the devil(environmentalists-socialists) to trick people, rather than just good evidence.
