[quote=CA renter]Okay, let’s say we want to determine how much doctors make (or engineers, or…pick your occupation). I would consider the “average” earnings for workers who had the “standard” qualifications, and worked the “standard” schedule. Anything in addition to this (overtime, bonuses, additional compensation for qualifications above those required for the job, etc.) would be “potential” extra income.
They would have to go above and beyond their normal duties in order to earn this extra income; therefore, I would not include it when discussing earnings for certain occupations UNLESS these extra jobs/qualifications (and income) were addressed as separate from the “standard” earnings.[/quote]
To me, that would be Entry Level. Not average. It’s also the big lie of the union pay scales, IMHO. Particularly when dealing with the likes of the Fire Fighters where EMT, heavy duty operator, etc, are really, the basics of the job.
What you describe is like businesses having five different job descriptions: Employee 1, Employee II, Employee III, Supervisor, Director and then arguing that the low Employee III pay is the real pay when the real job position is Employee III with name your favorite criteria.
As for picking up extra pay as a ‘Coach’ or working summer school, that’s extra. But 15% for a teaching credential, that’s pretty basic. EMT bonus pay when 1/3rd of the FF’s have them and are needed for the job, that’s the same.
So I’m with you if the Union’s will actually list out the real job positions with the real requirements and show the real base pay.
If you make 200% of you published base salary, there’s a problem. Either you work way to much, of you are on the clock way too much for not really working (on call), and that’s a management problem and a Union problem.
Let me be honest, I do not mind if teacher’s average $80,000 and they are effective and work as an effective school. I also don’t mind if Elementary teachers ‘average’ $55K.
I do mind the chronic union paint of poverty to see many school districts having ‘averages’ in the $70K+ range.
