Brian my point is that the immigrants who came here built themselves up. Our nation did not “provide” anything special for them. There was no govt window that you went to after Ellis Island that was the “opportunity center”. There was the street. Your declaration of immigrant success in the USA due to govt involvement when compared to immigrant failure in in Europe makes no sense. Yes the USA is a staggerring success when it comes to immigration success story but not because of the govt, but because of the immigrants themselves and the sacrifices they made. That is all I am pointing out. Not because of some special govt program making sure they got their “proportional share” or something like that.