Thanks for the advice, we will try to wait as long as possible hopefully until Fall 2008 (not sure if we could hold out for that long)…we really want to buy a new house rather than buy resell as we want to pick our own options. Pienza has about 16 homes left after this phasea nd we re also looking at the other new builders in 4S…John Laing or Buie…We don’t have our hearts set on Pienza, we just want to buy a new 3000 sq ft home to live in for the next 10-20 years. It seems as if the 3000 sq ft NEW homes will be completed by 2008 for all the buillders for 4S Ranch so that is why we will not wait until 2009. We love Del Sur however prices and mello roos are higher and we don’t want to wait 5-7 years…we recently sold our house and we are renting an apartment in order to save more money for a down payment…we don’t want to rent a house in 4S as those rents are currently 2.5 -3K per month, we rahter rent an apartment and try to save more money…although it is more cramped in apartment.