[quote=spdrun]State university, not necessarily in CA. No point in paying for high school remedial stuff in community college.[/quote]
spdrun, I’m all for this, since nearly ALL CA university campuses are getting to be “impacted.” But the problem herein lies in the out-of-state tuition, which is roughly 270% of in-state tuition in whichever state one is considering.
Submitted by bearishgurl on October 23, 2012 – 11:51am.
..A high school grad with a 3.5 to 3.75 GPA was not a “bad student.” I feel a “qualified” CA HS grad who attended all 13 years of their public school in CA “deserves” to be admitted to a university in their home state.
“Qualified” does not necessarily mean only 4.77 GPA HS grads (with multiple HS AP credits)…
Due to CA’s severe budget cuts heavily impacting programs and admissions numbers, I feel that the CA UC Regents and the CSU Board of Trustees needs to vote to give qualified CA residents with CA HS diplomasfirst priority in admissions over out-of-state and foreign students. The CA universities currently are leaning towards admitting those non-resident applicants over residents (who will pay much higher fees).
If their program cuts and admission practices continue on for even one more academic year like they have been for the last ~7 years, they will have the effect of causing 85-90% of CA HS students to have to “give up” on a public university degree in CA, IMO.
What’s happening here in CA is that nearly ALL resident HS grads with less than a 3.9 cumulative GPA will be turned down for CA university admission (as freshmen) in the future, relegating them to the underfunded and soon-to-be-chaos community colleges. When families can’t afford to pay out-of-state or private college tuition, the masses of CA HS grads who want an eventual bachelor’s degree will be stuck going to CC and hoping they can get all their GE credits in a timely manner to transfer into university in the future. After obtaining the needed ~60 units at CC (in 2-5 yrs, lol), they will then have to deal with the reality that once accepted into a UC or CSU program as a junior, they likely will not be able to finish their remaining ~60 units in two years … or even three years, all the while paying $500 to $800 per semester hour and paying for housing in SB, LA, SF, Berkeley, Irvine and other high-priced locales.
I believe qualified CA HS grads should be given the option to attend out-of-state universities for in-state tuition on a “space-A” basis. CA’s unsustainable ability to provide a college education to its residents (to whom it owes a “duty,” IMHO) would be more “palatable” if there were (at least a dozen or so) “reciprocation agreements” in place such as the one with ASU (AZ) where qualified CA-resident HS grads could qualify for in-state tuition at out-of-state universities where impaction is not such a problem (at less populous states). It is actually cheaper to pay for housing (or “rent” a relative’s back bdrm for your student) in some of these “flyover states” than it would be at CSU Merced or Fresno!
There is NOTHING preventing a (CA-resident) student who obtained their bachelor’s degree in KS, for instance, to return to CA to live and work after graduation. Leaving the state to go to college is simply a means to an end . . . to be accepted into a university as “high-avg” HS student with a ~3.7 GPA and perhaps 6-15 AP credits and to be able to finish in four years.
There’s something to be said for a student being able to finish their degree work on time, making them able to get a FT job in their field right after graduation, instead of paying $2500+ per semester to a CSU campus in years 5, 6 and 7 for <=5 credit hours at a time to obtain needed 300 and 400-level classes which are only offered every 4th or 5th semester (in the middle of the business day, of course), due to "budget cuts." At this rate, the student "degree candidate" is wasting precious years (and $$) in trying to get on with their lives.
