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August 13, 2006 at 9:28 PM #7198August 13, 2006 at 9:47 PM #31859powaysellerParticipant
The realtors I met on piggington are very smart; several are engineers. Bob Casagrand is a retired business executive, who turned around divisions of major US corporations in Europe and the US, and consulted in Saudi Arabia. I have 2 realtor friends, ladies, who are also intelligent. But I am sure there are many below average folks too, since the barrier of entry is low and the perception of easy money exists. I just have not met these people personally.
August 13, 2006 at 10:14 PM #31861AnonymousGuestThe Real estate industry has never had a lot of so called “talent” that you are talking about. By definition real estate agents are salesmen. To be good in sales doesn’t generally require any particular technical skills or degrees. The same traits that make a good car salesmen also works well in real estate.
So, what will happen to all the real estate agents after the crash? The real good ones will continue to be successful in real estate, or probably any other sales related job they wish to pursue. The poor ones and part timers will get weeded out. I don’t see anything drastic happening here, just a natural cyclic shift in employment.
August 14, 2006 at 9:25 AM #31868zeropointzeroParticipantThe low barriers to entry to the RE industry surely has allowed some lesser lights to join — and the last five years has allowed some of these folks to even thrive, as long as they could find listings and motivated buyers. On the other hand — the industry does attact some folks with energy and hustle, at least.
Of related intest — is there any way to track growth in “owner is lic. RE agent” listings? Surely there is going to be some real shakout from RE agents who assumed mortgages that cannot withstand a significant downturn in income in the coming months and years.
August 14, 2006 at 10:39 AM #31875anxvarietyParticipantCollege Degree = 4 years+
Real Estate License = 2-4 weeks (maybe less)I’m in software development – no degree needed in this field as experience is far more valuable than education… at least in the majority of cases.
Even people that appear to be idiots will amaze me quite often.. I believe that most people have the same brainpower, it’s just used in different ways.. some can’t do 5+5=10 but can tell if you’re lying to them..
I would measure a real estate agent’s career worth to be based on would be integrity*, level of effort and ability to adapt….
*I believe that integrity pays it’s dividends in the long run.. and that liars die young.
August 14, 2006 at 10:42 PM #31899SD RealtorParticipantPowayseller talking up Bob Casagrande and leaving me high and dry… I guess I better start sending her some better bribes…
Seriously guys I ABSOLUTELY agree with the statements made. Nothing new in this post except this is an opinion from someone on the inside… It is FRUSTRATING as heck when the realtor on the other side of the transaction is a bonehead. I want to be fair though, it is just as frustrating when the person on the other side of the transaction is a bonehead mortgage broker as well…
Yes it is a low barrier to entry… As an engineer and a Realtor it is a quite a difference dealing with the different peer groups. I will say in all fairness, many Realtors who have no advanced degrees are VERY good at what they do. So I do not want to bury them as a group…
Do the major brokerages care about the low barrier of entry? Absolutely not. Look they figure that with every bonehead they bring in, that bonehead has an aunt, or spouse, or friend, or someone in thier “sphere of influence” who they can get a transaction out of.
That is what is important to them….
Last I checked, no real estate brokerage has any tests you have to take to maintain employment… If you pass the DRE requirements, and are not a total screw up, and pay your required fees… you will get to hang around…
One good thing about the downturn is that the good agents will survive and the rabble will go back to thier waitress and bartending jobs…
August 15, 2006 at 7:16 AM #31924powaysellerParticipantSD Realtor, you are my fav! You are in my first sentence: “The realtors I met on piggington are very smart; several are engineers.” That’s *you* I am referring to.
August 15, 2006 at 10:57 AM #31950VCJIMParticipantSD Realtor,
I appreciate your posts, although I have one criticism about your last one. While you’re decrying lack of intelligence of some realtors, you’ve mispelled “their” twice! Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.
August 15, 2006 at 11:01 AM #31951(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantWhyle Im not one too pick on grammer, what’s even more funnier is that VCJIM misspelled the word “mispelled.”
August 15, 2006 at 11:06 AM #31952sdrealtorParticipantI guess this just keeps on going as your grammer is off also “what’s even more funnier is that” should simply be “what is even funnier is”
August 15, 2006 at 11:07 AM #31953VCJIMParticipantDamn!
August 15, 2006 at 11:23 AM #31958(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantSDR – you missed several other intended misspellings and grammatical misgivings (including my misspelling of grammar) … as well as the sarcasm intended.
I was just trying to stop this glass-throwing from inside rock houses.
August 15, 2006 at 12:08 PM #31963sdrealtorParticipantDoh! My bad, got it.
August 15, 2006 at 9:58 PM #32007powaysellerParticipantSpelling is a weak point for many people. So are writing skills. So I do not judge a person’s inteligence by their spelling, unless it is really bad. However, if someone speaks poorly, saying “ain’t” or double negatives (I don’t have no time), then I think they are uneducated.
I found a realtor on RealtyTimes, with so many bad spelling mistakes, I made fun of her and put her article in a post here. Some people thought I was too rough on her. “She’s a foreigner, give her a break” I was told. Well, “she needs to get someone to proofread a report that she publishes on Realty Times”, was my response. That lady was an example of a stupid realtor.
But people like SD Realtor, Bob Casagrand, John Hokkannen, and sdrealtor are intelligent people. They are still making a living in these hard times.
August 16, 2006 at 12:26 AM #32009FarlsParticipantAhhh..Powayseller you’re bringing back many memories of that lively thread…..I wonder how “Irrational Donna” feels about her downtown investment condo now and all her “instant equity”….
Farls
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