So you BID UP the underpriced ones with tons of competition and don’t get it anyway, or you try to make a deal if the price is too high against no competition at all? I think the listing side might try to get that VA offer through a little harder too. Not gonna argue with you too much even though my style has given me plenty of case study support. I am taking the OP literally. Does he want to get in escrow or not? I bet he is not as motivated as “I just want to buy a freaking house” would lead one to believe,if he is, someone could help him and get him a good deal.