Nice! You finally have added some substance to the discussion!! Bravo!

Everything I wrote in my post I got from internet sources–some from McCain’s campaign website, a lot from Wikipedia, some from other alleged biographies. So they may have had inaccuracies, which is different from lying. The best part about chronicaling history is that people see things–and even record things–differently. I did not take the effort to double-check or cross-check every “fact” I read elsewhere. I knew someone here would do that for me.

Thanks for finally adding something to the debate.

I will take a look at what you have offered and see if I can find any material to refute it or something that casts a different interpretation and…I’ll be back to report on what I find.

For the record, I don’t dislike the guy. And I really feel for him and what he went through. But I certainly think that, after the last 8 years, the party really could have come up with someone better.

I really want to address your issues re patriotism (from another thread) but honestly can’t come to terms with how separationist your worldview is. Will need some thought to try to see the entire country as us (military) against them (civilians). I thought we were fighting terrorist, not our own neighbors…?