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April 6, 2022 at 7:14 AM #23174April 6, 2022 at 7:55 AM #824871scaredyclassicParticipant
2.59 perc tax free.
So really 4. Or wait…is this taxable?
April 6, 2022 at 8:52 AM #824872CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]2.59 perc tax free.
So really 4. Or wait…is this taxable?[/quote]
Taxable. Of course.
April 6, 2022 at 7:53 PM #824890gzzParticipantI am buying Cal muni bond funds that yield about 5% tax free.
Not risk free but pretty low risk IMO.
They aren’t going to default, but further large rate increases would hurt them.
April 6, 2022 at 9:21 PM #824895CoronitaParticipant[quote=gzz]I am buying Cal muni bond funds that yield about 5% tax free.
Not risk free but pretty low risk IMO.
They aren’t going to default, but further large rate increases would hurt them.[/quote]
Wait CA muni bonds underperformed.fornthe past 2-3 years ,no?
April 7, 2022 at 7:18 AM #824901sdrealtorParticipant[quote=gzz]I am buying Cal muni bond funds that yield about 5% tax free.
Not risk free but pretty low risk IMO.
They aren’t going to default, but further large rate increases would hurt them.[/quote]
As an inflation hedge?
April 7, 2022 at 7:42 AM #824902phasterParticipantwant to make real money and amass real estate,… start a foundation and collect donations
April 7, 2022 at 8:47 AM #824903CoronitaParticipant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=gzz]I am buying Cal muni bond funds that yield about 5% tax free.
Not risk free but pretty low risk IMO.
They aren’t going to default, but further large rate increases would hurt them.[/quote]
As an inflation hedge?[/quote]
The YTD of one of my CA muni bonds index is pretty much as bad as the S&P 500 this year. And over the past 5 year it’s negative and way worse than the S&P500. One would have been better off just staying in cash.
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It’s even worse if you compare the 5 year
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At least S&P500 had a really good 5 year
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Yes, the dividend is federal and state tax exempt but YTD was atrocious overall for the past 5 years…
April 7, 2022 at 12:25 PM #824914gzzParticipantSDR: my RE, fixed rate mortgage and student loan debt, and stocks are all inflation hedges. I don’t need more. Bond funds are more deflation bets.
Flu: I agree muni bonds have done poorly lately, one source said they had their worst quarter since 1994. That’s why you can get closed end CA funds paying a tax free 4.6-5.2% right now. Roughly like a 10% pretax yield.
In three years if 10 year treasury rates go back to 1%, these bonds will have appreciated by about 20% on top of three years of paying tax free 5% income.
The mini rate spike in 2018 lasted even last time. Peak was 3.2% in 11/18 and bottom was 0.5% in July 2020.
The end of the pandemic stimulus bills and a return to divided government means a huge pullback in inflationary gov spending. Giant state surpluses mean less muni supply. Rich always getting richer means more muni demand.
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