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April 6, 2020 at 4:58 PM #22836April 6, 2020 at 5:27 PM #816249CoronitaParticipant
Don’t choose, do both, except home prices haven’t really corrected (yet). When and how much,dunno.
April 6, 2020 at 6:13 PM #816250Ready2InvestParticipant@Coronita – when you say both.. you mean both SFH and Multi-family? I don’t think our downpayment is going to cover two properties.
April 6, 2020 at 7:29 PM #816251gzzParticipantWith your income, owning your own home is a no-brainer for tax and stability reasons for your kids. If you don’t, go for it.
Given that you probably already own your own home and will inherit 3 more, that’s already plenty of exposure to our local market. For that reason, I’d say focus on stocks and bonds.
My favorite stocks now are MET IRBT and KHC.
iRobot is an established pure-play and profitable robot company with pentagon contracts and I assume a nice portfolio of patents. I think it will eventually be gobbled up by a tech giant like Amazon or Microsoft for a 30-50% premium.
For your IRA, I like the taxable muni fund GBAB.
If you do want to buy property, I think City Heights will do well due to its location and amenities compared to its price. For established areas, Ocean Beach I believe has the best value. But nearly all of San Diego is attractively priced compared to rents.
April 6, 2020 at 7:33 PM #816252scaredyclassicParticipantDollar cost avg into the stock market over 18 months, put more into REITs if u favor r.e., 90 % stocks, gold 5%, 5% bonds,
I’m stunned at how the zillow estimates on temecula housing keeps going up. Does not seem like a good deal 2 me
April 6, 2020 at 8:24 PM #816253ltsdddParticipant[quote=gzz]My favorite stocks now are MET IRBT and KHC.
[/quote]My vote is to put it in the stocks market if you don’t need the money for the next few years. Not a whole lot of bargains in real estate at the moment. One would expect this coronavirus thing will eventually ripple through the housing market sometime down the road.
I actually unloaded my shares in KHC today. I like KHC, but I like SLB, CSCO & BAC better at the current prices. So that’s where my $ go.
Regarding IRBT, not sure what else they make other than ROOMBA. Definitely a niche market and it’s losing ground to the made-in China knock-offs. Bought my first roomba years ago for $400+. Needed to replace it last year and ended up buying a couple offshore brands for about $120/each. The least expensive Roomba is about $250.
To OP – how about DRIPing the money equally between US & International stock funds?
April 6, 2020 at 8:39 PM #816254Ready2InvestParticipantThanks everyone! Seems like the consensus is to hold off on RE and get some stocks on “sale”.
Anyone invest in multi-families (2-4 units) or smaller apartment complexes (10-20 unit range)? We’re really drawn to these.
April 6, 2020 at 8:48 PM #816255Ready2InvestParticipantYou sound like my partner – the need to diversify part.
Even though it makes more economical sense to invest in the market right now as you all pointed out. I think we will eventually purchase more properties b/c we enjoy the process of refurbishing older properties and then renting. We’re looking to take advantage of the Opportunity Zones (City Heights being one of them).
Anyone else utilized the benefits of Opportunity Zone RE investments?
April 6, 2020 at 8:52 PM #816256Ready2InvestParticipantI wonder the same thing regarding Temecula and Chula Vista. My conclusion is people really like their bigger houses and a 50min commute is acceptable.
Compared to the bay area where people would drive/commute 2hr plus into the penisula/silicon valley, 50min seems like nothing.
April 6, 2020 at 9:03 PM #816257gzzParticipant10+ unit buildings these days are owned by either people who got them in ancient times or full time owners with corporate management. The market is fairly different and involves a different lending market. In the midwest this is more common because 10 unit complex can be under $500,000, and rarely go above $2 million.
Scaredy: REITs are not good investments for someone already well exposed to RE.
I actually am short SPG, a mall reit. This is as a hedge against my own local portfolio.
“Worst case” is that they go up and my much larger investment in rentals goes up too.
What could happen with spg is even if things reopen fairly soon, some of their marginal tenants won’t survive. Retail was already doing badly before Covid. A 2 month shutdown, another 2 month partial shutdown, then a recession….
The company is leveraged by about 10, so if you assume a 10% decline in the value of malls, their balance sheet is negative.
That’s an oversimplification, as they’ve taken a lot of paper depreciation losses that as of 1/2020, did not reflect the market.
Finally, they agreed to buy another mall reit for cash at a giant market premium. I read the sales agreement, and I don’t think they can wiggle out.
April 6, 2020 at 9:17 PM #816258gzzParticipantThe QOZ program seems to let you defer capital gains tax on something like selling stock if you buy a property there. Sounds good to me if you have a lot of appreciated stock you want to invest. Ideally you’d hold it until death and never pay!
If you enjoy renovating, I’d again suggest OB. Very easy to find tenants and lots of old houses and small complexes. Some are 50+ years old and never have been renovated. I’ve done 3 so far and really enjoyed it. I finished the last one 2 years ago and am missing the fun of tossing 90lb bags of concrete into my car and the smell of fresh cut lumber. The streets behind sports arena blvd, Hancock and Kurtz, have a bunch of smaller and unique hardware stores that often have crazy prices. Those places, home depot, OB Hardware, and Dixieline are all very quick drives making the process simpler.
April 7, 2020 at 8:08 AM #816260The-ShovelerParticipant[quote=Ready2Invest]I wonder the same thing regarding Temecula and Chula Vista. My conclusion is people really like their bigger houses and a 50min commute is acceptable.
Compared to the bay area where people would drive/commute 2hr plus into the penisula/silicon valley, 50min seems like nothing.[/quote]
There are a lot of other reasons besides 50mi is acceptable,
1) How close to retirement
2) What will Temecula look like in 10,15 or 20 years, Carlsbad and Oceanside industrial base is growing very fast as well.
etc…April 7, 2020 at 8:16 AM #816261scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler][quote=Ready2Invest]I wonder the same thing regarding Temecula and Chula Vista. My conclusion is people really like their bigger houses and a 50min commute is acceptable.
Compared to the bay area where people would drive/commute 2hr plus into the penisula/silicon valley, 50min seems like nothing.[/quote]
There are a lot of other reasons besides 50mi is acceptable,
1) How close to retirement
2) What will Temecula look like in 10,15 or 20 years, Carlsbad and Oceanside industrial base is growing very fast as well.
etc…[/quote]In 20 years I doubt temecula will be much more industrialized. But I’m pretty sure itll be more crowded.
April 7, 2020 at 8:50 AM #816263CoronitaParticipantI would pick index funds or ETFs, setup a monthly or bimonthly autoinvestment plan, elect to reinvest interest and dividend , and call it a day. I wouldn’t move money into the market in one large chunk all at once. Id spread the risk out over months.
in addition, you can try one of those newer Robo-advisers that are around $30/months. I’d be curious if they are any good.
April 7, 2020 at 9:02 AM #816267The-ShovelerParticipantSeems to be industrializing fairly fast to me, Carlsbad/Oceanside area is just going berserk with how fast they are growing their industrial base.
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