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January 22, 2016 at 3:16 PM #21849January 22, 2016 at 3:21 PM #793422January 22, 2016 at 4:20 PM #793423FlyerInHiGuest
Thanks for the google search.
I read some articles, but nothing in the mainstream press is detailed.Corrosive? At least explain why.
Treatment agents? At least name the chemicals.Oftentimes, journalists just repeat things and don’t report shit.
This quote is interesting. The city knew that Flint River water was not good. If not, then why even bother planning to get water from Lake Huron if the Flint River is right there?
As a cost-cutting move, the city began temporarily drawing its drinking water from the Flint River and treating it at the city water treatment plant while it waited for a new water pipeline to Lake Huron to be completed.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/01/19/michigan-flint-water-contamination/78996052/I looked at some picture of Flint. What a depressing place!
January 22, 2016 at 4:24 PM #793425FlyerInHiGuestI wonder if anyone will go to jail over this.
We will see what the American justice system delivers.In China, a few officials would probably get executed over something like this.
January 22, 2016 at 5:17 PM #793431spdrunParticipant… depends if they bribed the right people, of course.
January 22, 2016 at 5:35 PM #793436moneymakerParticipantAt least it wasn’t hexavalent chromium, like in the movie Erin Brockovich. It’s an oxidation inhibitor I think. Causes cancer but lead is pretty bad too. Pretty sure my RO system filters out both of these things.
January 22, 2016 at 11:31 PM #793448ucodegenParticipantNot quite as simple as all of that.. Distilled water is highly corrosive, so is RO. In San Diego, the water is not that corrosive due to all the minerals in the water (hard water from the Colorado River).
If you notice, a lot of RO systems use PEX piping on their output. This is because PEX is corrosion resistant. I suspect that the river water is not as ‘hard’ as Detroit water, therefore it will corrode metal.
http://www.wwdmag.com/channel/casestudies/corrosive-reverse-osmosis-finished-water
http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2521618/does-reverse-osmosis-water-corrode-copper-plumbing-the-answer
https://www.corrosionpedia.com/definition/984/reverse-osmosis-corrosion-ro-corrosionJanuary 23, 2016 at 6:12 AM #793449moneymakerParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]
In China, a few officials would probably get executed over something like this.[/quote]I think most places in China probably have at least the 27 ppb that Flint has in their drinking water already and nobody is saying anything. Seems to me that most everything from China sold in CA has a lead warning on it, yet they still sell it! China mines over half of the worlds lead every year and they use 44.5% of lead used in the world.
January 23, 2016 at 7:55 AM #793451no_such_realityParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]I wonder if anyone will go to jail over this.
We will see what the American justice system delivers.In China, a few officials would probably get executed over something like this.[/quote]
It’s corrosive because the rivers and streams have fairly high levels of chloride in them. You know chloride, the same compound use to treat the water for pathogens.
They have old infrastructure and aren’t using anti corrosive agents in the water. It’s that simple.
As for why is the river higher in chloride, the knee jerk finger point is road salt being partially being responsible.
So this man made disaster is really simple, the water agency didn’t do basic water agency duties.
And every winter, our northern cities basically salt their earth.
January 23, 2016 at 8:12 AM #793452spdrunParticipantSolution to this is simple. Plow, sand, mandate winter tires. No need for salt in most cases. If someone without snow tires crashes and burns with snow falling, don’t render aid and fine their estate $10,000.
January 23, 2016 at 1:27 PM #793459bearishgurlParticipant[quote=spdrun]Solution to this is simple. Plow, sand, mandate winter tires. No need for salt in most cases. If someone without snow tires crashes and burns with snow falling, don’t render aid and fine their estate $10,000.[/quote]
I tend to agree … except for not rendering aid and the fine, lol. People who live in snowy climes need to have a studded set of tires and also cables/chains if they don’t have 4WD/AWD. Also, they need to carry a “winter kit” with them at all times consisting of down sleeping bag(s), tire cables/chains, bungee cords, an old rug, disposable lighters, flashlight(s), shovel, flares, anti-freeze, and filled sandbags (if driving a lightweight vehicle). Did I miss anything?If living in the mtns, the winter kit should be carried at least 8 months per year, depending on locale.
January 23, 2016 at 8:15 PM #793478bearishgurlParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]…Did I miss anything?[/quote]
Ice scraper and a snow brush for the vehicle. Carrying a portable battery charger is a good idea, as well.
January 23, 2016 at 8:40 PM #793480bearishgurlParticipantBack to the OP … this problem isn’t exclusive to MI. There are areas of the southwest (flyover country) which have had “rusty” tap water for years. (Don’t know if its actually contaminated with lead.) I suspect the nearby fracking operations dumping into the nearby tributaries are major contributors to this problem. Again, it is the local governmental water quality personnel who are falling down on their duties in this region.
The citizens of CA are fortunate in that we have (overzealous?) environmental agencies who are constantly on top of any instances of pollution (i.e. warnings of ocean water pollution from Mexican sewage runoff into SD County) as well as all other aspects of our environment.
Complain all you want about how this is “bad for business” but before doing so, please consider the alternative. You need look no further than other states (with less conscientious gubment agencies to protect the environment) to see what happens in the absence of a high level of regulatory oversight in place.
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