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April 20, 2015 at 4:14 PM #21481April 20, 2015 at 4:17 PM #785021CoronitaParticipant
I’d say it will be sold to some investment group from asia pac.
April 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM #785023scaredyclassicParticipantgolf courses prbably should be phased out of california. or we could move to some form of wild desert golf with native brush and maybe astroturf for the green?. there is no way we should be dumping all that water on green playing fields, right? it cannot be sustainable. go on a junket and play golf in the pacific northwaest or someothing.
April 20, 2015 at 8:10 PM #785025moneymakerParticipantIf all golf courses paid the same as I do for water they would all have to file for bankruptcy, I’m betting they don’t pay the sewer fees I do even though I’m sure they have toilets in the club house.
April 20, 2015 at 8:43 PM #785028scaredyclassicParticipanti dont know. i think we may have already killed the planet. I feel bad. its been a few months since i ate any meat cause i feel so bad about killing the planet. i feel bad even eating a fish. we are disgusting. how we can decalre a “water emergency” and allow golf courses to remain open is in my mind insane. and indicative of how we simply have to destroy everything sooner or later.
April 20, 2015 at 11:00 PM #785035flyerParticipantIt will be interesting to see how The Crosby thing works out. I remember reading the original plans for Del Sur included an 18-hole golf course, and that plan was scrapped in favor of building more homes. Although the original owner sold out to Standard Pacific, I’ve heard they are very glad they made that choice before the water issues came up.
I agree that golf courses in CA probably need to go, or at least be allowed to turn a shade of brown, during our water crisis. Perhaps they could be revived if mother nature ever decides to bless us with rain again–and I say this as someone who has played golf his entire life–and was raised at LJCC. We can live without golf–we can’t live without water.
April 21, 2015 at 1:46 AM #785038CA renterParticipantDon’t a lot of golf courses use recycled/non-potable water? I thought most of them converted years ago.
Not saying that we can’t use this water for other purposes, just that using non-potable water makes the water usage a bit less disgusting.
April 21, 2015 at 2:05 AM #785041flyerParticipantGood points, CAr, at least there is some hope in that regard. Per below, I’m glad to know they’re taking some action. Here’s an article from CNN:
“California’s drought is changing the way the state’s 914 golf courses do business. The green-as-far-as-the-eye-can-see courses just won’t be possible to sustain anymore. Trees are being replaced with cactuses and other drought-resistant plants. Some courses are getting rid of grass altogether.
California golf courses were making these changes long before governor Jerry Brown implemented the state’s first mandatory water restrictions this week. California is in the fourth year of a prolonged and dangerous drought, and lush golf courses have been an easy target for conservationists.
The water restrictions require campuses, golf courses, cemeteries and other large landscapes to make significant cuts in water use.
Though “significant” isn’t clearly defined, the new restrictions mandate that the state’s water providers reduce their consumption by 25% over the next nine months. But most California golf courses had already put themselves on a “water diet,” using 20% less water than normal. That means the new restrictions likely won’t be too difficult to implement.It adds just a little to the hardship, but there won’t be much difference, said Craig Kessler, director of government affairs for the Southern California Golf Association.
Some local areas have implemented even tougher restrictions. The Contra Costa Country in the East San Francisco Bay area has recommended a 40% water reduction.
To cope, golf courses across the state are using alternative water sources, switching from potable tap water to recycled, untreated wastewater. Many are no longer watering their rough areas.
One water board in Southern California even offers a turf reduction rebate program, in which golf courses are compensated $2 per square foot of grass that they remove from their courses. Many are replacing rough grass with natural, drought-tolerant plants — others are going to Astroturf.
About a fifth of the state’s golf courses are certified or working towards a certification with Audubon International, a nonprofit that helps golf courses meet certain water conservation criteria. The agency recommends golf courses water greens at night, put sprinkler systems in place that can water specific areas and install moisture meters, according to Tara Pepperman, Audubon International’s program director.
The average American golf course uses 312,000 gallons per day, according to agency — about half an Olympic-sized swimming pool.
Though watering lawns for recreational purposes in the middle of a drought makes the golf industry an easy target, some in the golf industry believe the stigma isn’t unwarranted.Golf courses utilize just 1% of the state’s water, so I think we’re being unfairly targeted, said Marc Connerly, executive director of the California Golf Course Owners Association. In many ways, this seems like a symbolic gesture on the part of the governor — even if every golf course turns off its water, that only saves 1% of what the state uses.
The grass reductions and landscaping adjustments haven’t scared golfers away so far. Golfing is down nationally, and California has followed that trend. But the National Golf Foundation reports that California’s golf courses are largely staying operational — the number of courses dropped by just eight last year.
We have not seen golf courses shutting down, I’m happy to say, Connerly said. That’s in part because golf courses have been able to conserve. As long as we don’t have total water usage bans during certain times of day or days of the week, we’ll manage.
April 21, 2015 at 10:06 AM #785046poorgradstudentParticipantGolf is dying a slow death. It’s viewed as too elitist and boring by the young and middle class and seems to be waning in popularity among the elite. I’m not sure many business deals are hammered out over a round of 18 (or even 9) anymore.
Maybe Golf just needs another Tiger to come along. The fact he’s still the biggest name pro despite being terrible thanks to injuries for years says something.
The industry probably just needs to consolidate. Thirty years ago there were a lot more bowling alleys. Bowling still exists, but San Diego county has what… two real bowling alleys plus one hipster bar with a couple lanes? There’s probably just too many courses compared to exisiting and projected future demand right now.
April 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM #785047scaredyclassicParticipantConsidering how much room they take up, it just feels wrong particularly since so few people per acre are getting so pitifully low an amount of exercise. Imagine if these were wildush parks where hordes of free range kids could be outside frolicking. As opposed to four old white dudes drinking beer smoking and driving in a damp cart. .
April 21, 2015 at 12:27 PM #785051FlyerInHiGuest[quote=poorgradstudent]Golf is dying a slow death. It’s viewed as too elitist and boring by the young and middle class and seems to be waning in popularity among the elite. I’m not sure many business deals are hammered out over a round of 18 (or even 9) anymore.
Maybe Golf just needs another Tiger to come along. The fact he’s still the biggest name pro despite being terrible thanks to injuries for years says something.
The industry probably just needs to consolidate. Thirty years ago there were a lot more bowling alleys. Bowling still exists, but San Diego county has what… two real bowling alleys plus one hipster bar with a couple lanes? There’s probably just too many courses compared to exisiting and projected future demand right now.[/quote]
I learned golfing. Bought all my equipment, etc… Then I gave it up because it’s so boring.
I once wanted to live on a golf course. I’ve totally changed.
April 21, 2015 at 1:46 PM #785059CoronitaParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=poorgradstudent]Golf is dying a slow death. It’s viewed as too elitist and boring by the young and middle class and seems to be waning in popularity among the elite. I’m not sure many business deals are hammered out over a round of 18 (or even 9) anymore.
Maybe Golf just needs another Tiger to come along. The fact he’s still the biggest name pro despite being terrible thanks to injuries for years says something.
The industry probably just needs to consolidate. Thirty years ago there were a lot more bowling alleys. Bowling still exists, but San Diego county has what… two real bowling alleys plus one hipster bar with a couple lanes? There’s probably just too many courses compared to exisiting and projected future demand right now.[/quote]
I learned golfing. Bought all my equipment, etc… Then I gave it up because it’s so boring.
I once wanted to live on a golf course. I’ve totally changed.[/quote]
You do realize golfing is very popular among ivy league graduates… π
April 21, 2015 at 1:52 PM #785060anParticipant[quote=flu]You do realize golfing is very popular among ivy league graduates… :)[/quote]If you want to run in the Ivy league circle, you better love to golf π
April 21, 2015 at 2:23 PM #785061scaredyclassicParticipantGolf is a superior sport because it is generally agreed that it is superior.
April 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM #785062scaredyclassicParticipantHere’s a much more manly sport involving moving an object a long distance. Low water requirement.
Olympic hammer throw.
Awesome to watch…
Imagine a nation where men could routinely do the hammer throw …. we would be feared around the globe
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