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April 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM #20626April 12, 2013 at 1:41 AM #761214CA renterParticipant
I’m sorry to hear that you’re going through tough times at work, paramount. Hopefully, your job will be spared as your company deals with the sequestration and other economic shifts.
Selling the houses for at least $100K net profit might be a good idea right now. This is one of the hottest seller’s markets in RE history and now is the time to sell if you’re not planning on staying for the long run, IMHO. Of course, I’m bearing on housing in the long-run, so take that for whatever it’s worth. I believe that interest rates are going to determine what happens in the future, but I’ve been wrong about the ability of the Fed to manipulate things for as long as they have. Who knows? They might be able to carry on for a long, long time.
If you do decide to sell your houses, and if you feel comfortable handling the transactions yourself, it might be worth your while to use a broker who will charge a fairly low fee just to list it on the MLS (take lots of excellent pictures and write a detailed description of the property with all the amenities, etc.). It could save you thousands of dollars. If you’re not comfortable with that, be sure to negotiate with a realtor/broker for a lower commission, since listings are hard to get and your listings will be like gold to them right now.
It might not be a bad idea to sell both houses, sock that money away in short-term CDs and/or Treasuries, and wait for things to settle down. I really believe we are still in the middle of an enormous credit/asset price bubble that will pop within the next 10 years. You could rent a house here for as long as you can maintain a job here, and then have the freedom to move wherever you can find employment if things don’t pan out in SD/Riv. I’d wait to buy until you are retired and don’t have to worry about chasing jobs around the country and having to sell into a bad market or manage rentals from afar.
Best of luck, paramount.
April 12, 2013 at 7:17 AM #761216zkParticipantSucks for workers that the days of a company keeping you on for 40 years with ever-increasing pay and then giving you a pension are gone. I guess our kids are going to have to start saving early and save a lot. And plan for the possibility of reduced income starting in their 40’s. I don’t know, seems to me, anyway.
I don’t know what price range your houses are in, and I’m not familiar with the Temecula market. But from what I’m seeing elsewhere, I would consider asking for the moon, especially if your houses are in a lower price range. I’ve seen houses go for way more than I would have thought possible. You might even just test the market, especially if your plan hinges on getting a very high price. Put ’em out there for something really high and see what happens.
The realtors on this board usually give pretty solid advice. And if they don’t like this plan, that should carry some weight. But if you find a listing agent and he tries to talk you out of listing really high, obviously you need to remember it’s better for him to list it at something it will definitely sell for rather than a “test the market” price.
April 12, 2013 at 7:22 AM #761217desmondParticipantSell one, move into the other until that home becomes your official residence, then try to sell that one. Move to Austin and get your ass kicked daily by “rednecks” that drive trucks”, brilliant!
April 12, 2013 at 8:11 AM #761218zkParticipant[quote=desmond]Sell one, move into the other until that home becomes your official residence, then try to sell that one. Move to Austin and get your ass kicked daily by “rednecks” that drive trucks”, brilliant![/quote]
Not as many rednecks in Austin as in the rest of Texas. Probably only marginally more than in Temecula, for that matter. I’ve been to Austin many times. Fantastic city. Weather, not so great. Lots of thunderstorms, which is cool. But the summers are pretty brutal. Like Temecula but with humidity.
April 12, 2013 at 8:28 AM #761219spdrunParticipantCalifornia has a few advantages over Texas;
(1) Low property taxes fixed by statute. People would scream holy murder if this changes for primary residences, so it won’t. Texas is actually known for low income/high property taxes.
(2) Climate/even in Temecula you’re 1 hr away from mountains and world class beaches.
(3) Food/cost of living can actually be relatively cheap if you’re not pretentious, don’t need a 2013 car, the latest smartphone, and to eat out every other day.Then again, Austin has SxSW — that counts for something :). Nevada? No thanks unless it’s northern/mountain NV. 110F in summer on a regular basis — I’d rather cut my left yarble off with a rusty razor.
April 12, 2013 at 8:43 AM #761221desmondParticipant[quote=zk][quote=desmond]Sell one, move into the other until that home becomes your official residence, then try to sell that one. Move to Austin and get your ass kicked daily by “rednecks” that drive trucks”, brilliant![/quote]
Not as many rednecks in Austin as in the rest of Texas. Probably only marginally more than in Temecula, for that matter. I’ve been to Austin many times. Fantastic city. Weather, not so great. Lots of thunderstorms, which is cool. But the summers are pretty brutal. Like Temecula but with humidity.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip, although I sent my kids to college in Texas, Ft. Worth and Waco and now both live in Houston. I drive a truck, like Texas, own land there and will move there eventually, and I don’t consider anybody a “Redneck”. I guess you just missed my point on this one………….I am sure Paramount did not.
April 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM #761222desmondParticipant[quote=spdrun]California has a few advantages over Texas;
(1) Low property taxes fixed by statute. People would scream holy murder if this changes for primary residences, so it won’t. Texas is actually known for low income/high property taxes.
(2) Climate/even in Temecula you’re 1 hr away from mountains and world class beaches.
(3) Food/cost of living can actually be relatively cheap if you’re not pretentious, don’t need a 2013 car, the latest smartphone, and to eat out every other day.Then again, Austin has SxSW — that counts for something :). Nevada? No thanks unless it’s northern/mountain NV. 110F in summer on a regular basis — I’d rather cut my left yarble off with a rusty razor.[/quote]
Make sure it is a Lady Schick.
April 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM #761220FlyerInHiGuestDon’t sell now. Prices are going up.
If I were you I’d try to time to next peak.Buy in Vegas now is a good idea, if you are not overbid. Plan on offering at least $10,000 over list, even on a foreclosure.
Employment situation is a result of globalization.
We all need to learn to live with the new reality.Were the last boom and the one before that phony or real? This is as real as it gets.
April 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM #761223no_such_realityParticipantReally, what’s your age?
Not sure how an Engineer with BS and MS in EE is going to get their salary whacked in half unless the Government was just insanely paying above market rates through the 2nd hand fleecing of the contractor.
Oh wait, I suspect I just answered my own question, I know people working cost plus…
April 12, 2013 at 11:19 AM #761224paramountParticipant[quote=desmond]Sell one, move into the other until that home becomes your official residence, then try to sell that one. Move to Austin and get your ass kicked daily by “rednecks” that drive trucks”, brilliant![/quote]
When it comes to rednecks I’m already battle hardened, and did I mention I have a truck that won’t fit in my 3-car garage?
In fact, I hardly ever drive it because it’s a PIA to park.
Besides, I picked Austin because I was under the impression it’s a redneck free zone.
April 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM #761225FlyerInHiGuestAustin is getting Google fiber.
April 12, 2013 at 4:15 PM #761232bearishgurlParticipant[quote=desmond]Sell one, move into the other until that home becomes your official residence, then try to sell that one. … [/quote]
I like desmond’s plan the best, paramount. Don’t worry about where to move away to right now. Just wait until your tenants’ lease is just about up and give them 30 days notice to vacate. Then spruce up that house a little and list it vacant.
If your tenants are on a month-to-month rental agreement, then give them a 30-day letter to vacate on May 1.
Don’t move your family and list your primary unless something really does happen with your job. In the meanwhile, try to save as much money as you can.
You’ll have the proceeds from the sale of your rental house in the bank to help you if you need it while you are getting your primary ready to list, listing it for sale and all the way through COE until your stuff is packed up.
If you leave the area for a distant job, I would just rent first in the new area before deciding to buy as you really won’t know at that time if you will like the new job, the new job will like you or if you will like the locale.
Don’t sell your primary and move if you haven’t yet lost your job, that is, unless you don’t mind moving back into your rental and can do so cheaply. Then my former suggestions (above) would be reversed. If you do it this way, you would then be stuck living in your old house if your job was spared and would have the proceeds from the sale of your primary in the bank.
I just remember posts from you that you didn’t really like the neighbors around your rental house when you were living there. Perhaps they have mostly all changed now … the former ones having been foreclosed upon, given keys for cash, or sold short.
April 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM #761235bearishgurlParticipantdesmond, I don’t think paramount needs to worry about whether the property he’s selling is his “official residence,” or not. Any Pigg tax people correct me if I’m wrong, but he would have to make a least a $250K profit upon sale over the price he paid for each house in order to need an “official residence.”
I don’t think he’s owned either one of them very long.
April 12, 2013 at 5:15 PM #761236EconProfParticipantSometimes the best option is to do nothing.
Why incur all the transaction costs, including spending your own time, churning properties and moving across the country? And all on a feared economic scenario that may or may not materialize. You will make the realtors and movers happy, but at great cost and personal disruption.
And there is something contradictory about selling properties because they have gone up a lot and buying elsewhere in hopes those properties will also go up a lot. Rampant inflation in values, if that is in our future, will push up all areas, albeit at different rates.
I’d be wary of big life changes based on economic forecasts. I’ve been right as well as wrong many times in the past. Right now I don’t know if we are in for serious inflation (which I’ve been wrong in predicting), or deflation (look at the price of gold). I’d suggest you stay put, build your liquidity, and be prepared for any eventuality. -
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