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October 21, 2011 at 10:51 AM #19221October 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM #731104CoronitaParticipant
After I get done with my chemo, I am going to definitely buy another home.
October 21, 2011 at 11:20 AM #731106anParticipantI don’t know if it matters if you have equity or not. I think it’s more important to know how much is your payment vs income. If this is your first rental, some lender would let you count the average rent for your house as income and some would not let you until you own the rental for 2+ years. Different lender have different rules regarding this. However, if you say you can afford both payment, then I assume you wouldn’t have problem qualifying if you can’t count the rent toward your income.
October 21, 2011 at 11:39 AM #731107outtamojoParticipant“(c) Anything else that I need to be aware of?”
Expect a ton of paperwork!
October 21, 2011 at 11:47 AM #731108sdrealtorParticipantIt can be pretty complicated. More complicated than simply buying an investment property. Dont relie on us numbskulls. Talk to an experienced lender who can anticipate and work through all the issues with you in advance.
October 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM #731110anParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]It can be pretty complicated. More complicated than simply buying an investment property. Dont relie on us numbskulls. Talk to an experienced lender who can anticipate and work through all the issues with you in advance.[/quote]
+1. Talk to the pros for more details.October 21, 2011 at 1:50 PM #731113SD RealtorParticipantI would agree with sdr to talk to some home loan people. However my advice would be that you worst case it. That is, presume that the lender will treat your purchase as an investment property purchase no matter how much you tell them it is not going to be that way. If this is the case you will not get the same rate as an owner occupied rate. You can even go so far as to literally put your home on the market for sale and many lenders still will not take the bait.
With regards to your ratios that the lender will use for your approval process, it doesn’t really matter how much equity you have in the home, they will more then likely count both mortgage payments, insurance and property taxes in the calculation because you do not have a tenant in place. Again, this is my speculative answer and it is a worst case answer. As sdr said talk to some lenders or mortgage brokers and see what they say.
If you had some time, then moving out, renting a place and getting some tenants in your home with s a little bit of seasoning would help mitigate the situation.
October 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM #731123sdrealtorParticipantIts possible as long as you have enough equity and can prove you have a tenant coming (lease and deposit check). You really need to to talk to an expert. Most lenders out there are “Sure, I can get it done guys”. They say they can but dont really understand what it will take and try to figure it out along the way. Its hard to find someone who isnt a “Sure, I can get it done guy”.
let me know if you need one. I have someone with 20 years experience who will take you what you need to know and if you are really serious he will take you through underwriting before you even write an offer. Thats what you really need to do.
October 21, 2011 at 5:11 PM #731128EconProfParticipantThe bigger question is whether you want to become a landlord. There is a huge learning curve involved to do it right, and beginners too often quickly say…I can just rent it out. Are you handy with tenant-caused maintenance problems? Ready to get up to speed on all tenant-landlord laws? Can you list the red flags that should warn you away from certain applicants? Have you fully accounted for vacancy and fixup periods between tenants? Know how to interpret credit reports? Above all, have you considered ALL the costs involved over time, including the value of your own time?
Historically, owning a rental property is only worthwhile in those rare periods of rapid appreciation. From an operating standpoint you are up against the big rental or condo complexes that have economies of scale in purchasing, contracting, advertising, showing and on-site management. And prospective tenants are understandably suspicious of amateur landlords, which may lower your achievable rent.October 21, 2011 at 7:41 PM #731133paramountParticipantI can speak from very recent experience that econprof is right on target. I hired a property management company, and thought my house would rent in 2 or 3 weeks.
It took 2 months.
October 21, 2011 at 8:52 PM #731134equalizerParticipant[quote=EconProf]The bigger question is whether you want to become a landlord. There is a huge learning curve involved to do it right, and beginners too often quickly say…I can just rent it out. Are you handy with tenant-caused maintenance problems? Ready to get up to speed on all tenant-landlord laws? Can you list the red flags that should warn you away from certain applicants? Have you fully accounted for vacancy and fixup periods between tenants? Know how to interpret credit reports? Above all, have you considered ALL the costs involved over time, including the value of your own time?
Historically, owning a rental property is only worthwhile in those rare periods of rapid appreciation. From an operating standpoint you are up against the big rental or condo complexes that have economies of scale in purchasing, contracting, advertising, showing and on-site management. And prospective tenants are understandably suspicious of amateur landlords, which may lower your achievable rent.[/quote]
Could be the best post of the year.October 21, 2011 at 8:56 PM #731135equalizerParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Its possible as long as you have enough equity and can prove you have a tenant coming (lease and deposit check). You really need to to talk to an expert. Most lenders out there are “Sure, I can get it done guys”. They say they can but dont really understand what it will take and try to figure it out along the way. Its hard to find someone who isnt a “Sure, I can get it done guy”.
let me know if you need one. I have someone with 20 years experience who will take you what you need to know and if you are really serious he will take you through underwriting before you even write an offer. Thats what you really need to do.[/quote]
It’s very tough now. I was told by experienced lender that for a newbie, the lenders pretty much want several months of rental history before they would even consider 50% of the rental income.October 21, 2011 at 9:48 PM #731141paramountParticipantI had to show that I could ‘afford’ both houses…
October 21, 2011 at 9:52 PM #731142SD RealtorParticipantAgreed Paramount… The worst case (and probably most realistic) assumption that the poster should realize is that the lender will use BOTH homes (mortgages, property taxes and insurance) to calculate what the poster will be approved for.
As sdr said above, most mortgage brokers will promise the world but it is the underwriters who make the decisions so be prudent when seeking out advice on this.
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