What’s a financial planner going to do?

They aren’t going to change the fact that you spend money on kibble, they’ll just give you plans on what to do after you stop the death of a thousand cuts.

Honestly, if you’ve got a budget, then there isn’t much a planner is going to do to change what you’re doing other than saying category X is more than is typical for someone with your income.

Maybe a better question is where is the money going that is discretionary? For your fixed costs: housing, cars, are they porportionate for your income?

What’s a financial planner going to do?

They aren’t going to change the fact that you spend money on kibble, they’ll just give you plans on what to do after you stop the death of a thousand cuts.

Honestly, if you’ve got a budget, then there isn’t much a planner is going to do to change what you’re doing other than saying category X is more than is typical for someone with your income.

Maybe a better question is where is the money going that is discretionary? For your fixed costs: housing, cars, are they porportionate for your income?

I think most financial planners focus on investments as opposed to household budgets. I don’t believe it would be worth it to pay someone to tell you where to not waste money, the very idea seems contradictory. I have seen older posts where people have posted their actual budget and piggs have chimed in with various ideas where the waste is and what they do to save money in that area, maybe try that, don’t think anyone would mind. We’ve had lengthy discussions and cost saving ideas on many individual topics, from cable t.v. to tithing and everything in between. As a group, we are pretty tight with our money, I’ve learned a lot of tricks over the years from fellow piggies.

If publicly throwing out your budget isn’t what you would like to do, or if the bills aren’t the problem and the “incidentals” are what’s killing you, then might I suggest an old school budget for a little while. It’s easy and fun.

1. stop all your “autopay” functions, write a check for all bills and keep a ledgerbook of the checks you’ve written and list the bills on the opposing page with an “estimate” and an “actual.” I advise against software or electronic devices for this lesson, do it for six months, keep the ledger book with the bills and in a place you both have access to.

2. Put the credit cards and atm cards in a box or vow not to use them unless it is a true emergency.

3. Get some envelopes, write the names of a few categories (food, clothing, entertainment, Etc.) on the outside. Determine an amount to be placed in each envelope on each payday, an amount that won’t get in the way of all the normal bills plus a little extra that will build up in your checking to provide incentive, but you can’t spend that. Then when the next payday rolls around, whatever is left in the envelopes gets rolled into a slush fund envelope. So you will have to earn your discretionary spending money.

4. Make sure that you get some pocket money each payday, otherwise you will feel bad, your pocket money doesn’t get rolled into the slush fund.

5. If you want to buy a piece of furniture or take a little trip, it has to be paid in cash and from the slush fund, nothing can be financed, avoid paying interest on anything, interest is the enemy, if you don’t have the cash, dont get it.
Holidays and gifts must be paid out of the slush fund, you wont want flowers anymore because they will come out of your slush fund, set price limits or skip gift giving during this experiment. Financial security is a gift, mor precious than jewels.

In six months, see how you did, see if your savings increased, if you get a raise at work or an income tax refund, use it to pay off debts or save it, you can’t spend it, you have to live within the envelope system. The money you save on interest or forgoing big ticket items will begin to accumulate in your savings account.

There, you just saved $500 on a financial planner, who would have probably just told you to make your own coffee and pack a lunch.

I was taught this long ago, I’ve gone back to auto pay and atm cards, but I still use many of the lessons, some of them will never leave you. Now i have electronic envelopes, but it still works the same, and paying interest is still the enemy.

I think most financial planners focus on investments as opposed to household budgets. I don’t believe it would be worth it to pay someone to tell you where to not waste money, the very idea seems contradictory. I have seen older posts where people have posted their actual budget and piggs have chimed in with various ideas where the waste is and what they do to save money in that area, maybe try that, don’t think anyone would mind. We’ve had lengthy discussions and cost saving ideas on many individual topics, from cable t.v. to tithing and everything in between. As a group, we are pretty tight with our money, I’ve learned a lot of tricks over the years from fellow piggies.

If publicly throwing out your budget isn’t what you would like to do, or if the bills aren’t the problem and the “incidentals” are what’s killing you, then might I suggest an old school budget for a little while. It’s easy and fun.

1. stop all your “autopay” functions, write a check for all bills and keep a ledgerbook of the checks you’ve written and list the bills on the opposing page with an “estimate” and an “actual.” I advise against software or electronic devices for this lesson, do it for six months, keep the ledger book with the bills and in a place you both have access to.

2. Put the credit cards and atm cards in a box or vow not to use them unless it is a true emergency.

3. Get some envelopes, write the names of a few categories (food, clothing, entertainment, Etc.) on the outside. Determine an amount to be placed in each envelope on each payday, an amount that won’t get in the way of all the normal bills plus a little extra that will build up in your checking to provide incentive, but you can’t spend that. Then when the next payday rolls around, whatever is left in the envelopes gets rolled into a slush fund envelope. So you will have to earn your discretionary spending money.

4. Make sure that you get some pocket money each payday, otherwise you will feel bad, your pocket money doesn’t get rolled into the slush fund.

5. If you want to buy a piece of furniture or take a little trip, it has to be paid in cash and from the slush fund, nothing can be financed, avoid paying interest on anything, interest is the enemy, if you don’t have the cash, dont get it.
Holidays and gifts must be paid out of the slush fund, you wont want flowers anymore because they will come out of your slush fund, set price limits or skip gift giving during this experiment. Financial security is a gift, mor precious than jewels.

In six months, see how you did, see if your savings increased, if you get a raise at work or an income tax refund, use it to pay off debts or save it, you can’t spend it, you have to live within the envelope system. The money you save on interest or forgoing big ticket items will begin to accumulate in your savings account.

There, you just saved $500 on a financial planner, who would have probably just told you to make your own coffee and pack a lunch.

I was taught this long ago, I’ve gone back to auto pay and atm cards, but I still use many of the lessons, some of them will never leave you. Now i have electronic envelopes, but it still works the same, and paying interest is still the enemy.

I think most financial planners focus on investments as opposed to household budgets. I don’t believe it would be worth it to pay someone to tell you where to not waste money, the very idea seems contradictory. I have seen older posts where people have posted their actual budget and piggs have chimed in with various ideas where the waste is and what they do to save money in that area, maybe try that, don’t think anyone would mind. We’ve had lengthy discussions and cost saving ideas on many individual topics, from cable t.v. to tithing and everything in between. As a group, we are pretty tight with our money, I’ve learned a lot of tricks over the years from fellow piggies.

If publicly throwing out your budget isn’t what you would like to do, or if the bills aren’t the problem and the “incidentals” are what’s killing you, then might I suggest an old school budget for a little while. It’s easy and fun.

1. stop all your “autopay” functions, write a check for all bills and keep a ledgerbook of the checks you’ve written and list the bills on the opposing page with an “estimate” and an “actual.” I advise against software or electronic devices for this lesson, do it for six months, keep the ledger book with the bills and in a place you both have access to.

2. Put the credit cards and atm cards in a box or vow not to use them unless it is a true emergency.

3. Get some envelopes, write the names of a few categories (food, clothing, entertainment, Etc.) on the outside. Determine an amount to be placed in each envelope on each payday, an amount that won’t get in the way of all the normal bills plus a little extra that will build up in your checking to provide incentive, but you can’t spend that. Then when the next payday rolls around, whatever is left in the envelopes gets rolled into a slush fund envelope. So you will have to earn your discretionary spending money.

4. Make sure that you get some pocket money each payday, otherwise you will feel bad, your pocket money doesn’t get rolled into the slush fund.

5. If you want to buy a piece of furniture or take a little trip, it has to be paid in cash and from the slush fund, nothing can be financed, avoid paying interest on anything, interest is the enemy, if you don’t have the cash, dont get it.
Holidays and gifts must be paid out of the slush fund, you wont want flowers anymore because they will come out of your slush fund, set price limits or skip gift giving during this experiment. Financial security is a gift, mor precious than jewels.

In six months, see how you did, see if your savings increased, if you get a raise at work or an income tax refund, use it to pay off debts or save it, you can’t spend it, you have to live within the envelope system. The money you save on interest or forgoing big ticket items will begin to accumulate in your savings account.

There, you just saved $500 on a financial planner, who would have probably just told you to make your own coffee and pack a lunch.

I was taught this long ago, I’ve gone back to auto pay and atm cards, but I still use many of the lessons, some of them will never leave you. Now i have electronic envelopes, but it still works the same, and paying interest is still the enemy.

If you don’t have all expenses tracked, you could try Quicken or their free service at mint.com, which gets raves reviews, but all your data is on their server.

If you don’t have all expenses tracked, you could try Quicken or their free service at mint.com, which gets raves reviews, but all your data is on their server.