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September 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM #16376September 21, 2009 at 9:24 AM #459665ArrayaParticipant
Money and credit are either increasing in availability or decreasing in availability relative to goods and services. We are doing one or the other at all times. The system is normally inflationary, we have been doing it for decades. You can’t just turn a credit market collapse, which is a massively deflationary force, into inflation overnight without serious consequences. IMO, the serious consequences are quickly approaching.
We are deflating now. Mish is mostly correct. Public debt did not offset private credit destruction, we have had a net contraction. Which is DEFLATION.
Chris Martenson quantifies this here in this article:
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/flow-funds-analysis-big-declines-credit-market-debt-except-government/27767
Since it is not possible for the government to become the perpetual source of all new borrowing, for the old economic paradigm to work it is imperative that consumers and businesses pick up the borrowing baton and race off with it.However, as many outside of the main economic echo chambers have already divined, it may simply be that there is a “new normal” out there that does not include a return to the former trajectory of borrowing. If so, then the government attempts to “plug the gap,” while crossing their fingers and waiting for everyone to get back in the race, will fail.
I have resolved myself to a new normal, a much lower normal, and my main concern centers on whether the government will arrive at the same conclusion before the dollar is ruined, or after.
Devaluation comes in when the world loses confidence in the dollar and it devalues from lack of demand for dollars. I’m not sure if it is technically inflation when that happens because it does not matter how much or little money is being created.
Henry C Lu explains the dollar as reserve currency here. He also claims to be the one that convinced china to stop using the dollar.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/JG30Cb01.html
Dollar hegemony is a geopolitically constructed peculiarity through which critical commodities, the most notable being oil, are denominated in fiat dollars, not backed by gold or other species since then president Richard Nixon took the US dollar off gold in 1971. The recycling of petro-dollars into other dollar assets is the price the US has extracted from oil-producing countries for US tolerance of the oil-exporting cartel since 1973. After that, everyone accepts dollars because dollars can buy oil, and everyeconomy needs oil. Dollar hegemony separates the trade value of every currency from direct connection to the productivity of the issuing economy to link it directly to the size of dollar reserves held by the issuing central bank. Dollar hegemony enables the US to own indirectly but essentially the entire global economy by requiring its wealth to be denominated in fiat dollars that the US can print at will with little in the way of monetary penalties
Constantly battling deflation with pilling debt on the public has an end point somewhere and that point is probably losing our reserve currency status as the world loses confidence in the US financial system.
September 21, 2009 at 9:24 AM #459858ArrayaParticipantMoney and credit are either increasing in availability or decreasing in availability relative to goods and services. We are doing one or the other at all times. The system is normally inflationary, we have been doing it for decades. You can’t just turn a credit market collapse, which is a massively deflationary force, into inflation overnight without serious consequences. IMO, the serious consequences are quickly approaching.
We are deflating now. Mish is mostly correct. Public debt did not offset private credit destruction, we have had a net contraction. Which is DEFLATION.
Chris Martenson quantifies this here in this article:
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/flow-funds-analysis-big-declines-credit-market-debt-except-government/27767
Since it is not possible for the government to become the perpetual source of all new borrowing, for the old economic paradigm to work it is imperative that consumers and businesses pick up the borrowing baton and race off with it.However, as many outside of the main economic echo chambers have already divined, it may simply be that there is a “new normal” out there that does not include a return to the former trajectory of borrowing. If so, then the government attempts to “plug the gap,” while crossing their fingers and waiting for everyone to get back in the race, will fail.
I have resolved myself to a new normal, a much lower normal, and my main concern centers on whether the government will arrive at the same conclusion before the dollar is ruined, or after.
Devaluation comes in when the world loses confidence in the dollar and it devalues from lack of demand for dollars. I’m not sure if it is technically inflation when that happens because it does not matter how much or little money is being created.
Henry C Lu explains the dollar as reserve currency here. He also claims to be the one that convinced china to stop using the dollar.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/JG30Cb01.html
Dollar hegemony is a geopolitically constructed peculiarity through which critical commodities, the most notable being oil, are denominated in fiat dollars, not backed by gold or other species since then president Richard Nixon took the US dollar off gold in 1971. The recycling of petro-dollars into other dollar assets is the price the US has extracted from oil-producing countries for US tolerance of the oil-exporting cartel since 1973. After that, everyone accepts dollars because dollars can buy oil, and everyeconomy needs oil. Dollar hegemony separates the trade value of every currency from direct connection to the productivity of the issuing economy to link it directly to the size of dollar reserves held by the issuing central bank. Dollar hegemony enables the US to own indirectly but essentially the entire global economy by requiring its wealth to be denominated in fiat dollars that the US can print at will with little in the way of monetary penalties
Constantly battling deflation with pilling debt on the public has an end point somewhere and that point is probably losing our reserve currency status as the world loses confidence in the US financial system.
September 21, 2009 at 9:24 AM #460463ArrayaParticipantMoney and credit are either increasing in availability or decreasing in availability relative to goods and services. We are doing one or the other at all times. The system is normally inflationary, we have been doing it for decades. You can’t just turn a credit market collapse, which is a massively deflationary force, into inflation overnight without serious consequences. IMO, the serious consequences are quickly approaching.
We are deflating now. Mish is mostly correct. Public debt did not offset private credit destruction, we have had a net contraction. Which is DEFLATION.
Chris Martenson quantifies this here in this article:
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/flow-funds-analysis-big-declines-credit-market-debt-except-government/27767
Since it is not possible for the government to become the perpetual source of all new borrowing, for the old economic paradigm to work it is imperative that consumers and businesses pick up the borrowing baton and race off with it.However, as many outside of the main economic echo chambers have already divined, it may simply be that there is a “new normal” out there that does not include a return to the former trajectory of borrowing. If so, then the government attempts to “plug the gap,” while crossing their fingers and waiting for everyone to get back in the race, will fail.
I have resolved myself to a new normal, a much lower normal, and my main concern centers on whether the government will arrive at the same conclusion before the dollar is ruined, or after.
Devaluation comes in when the world loses confidence in the dollar and it devalues from lack of demand for dollars. I’m not sure if it is technically inflation when that happens because it does not matter how much or little money is being created.
Henry C Lu explains the dollar as reserve currency here. He also claims to be the one that convinced china to stop using the dollar.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/JG30Cb01.html
Dollar hegemony is a geopolitically constructed peculiarity through which critical commodities, the most notable being oil, are denominated in fiat dollars, not backed by gold or other species since then president Richard Nixon took the US dollar off gold in 1971. The recycling of petro-dollars into other dollar assets is the price the US has extracted from oil-producing countries for US tolerance of the oil-exporting cartel since 1973. After that, everyone accepts dollars because dollars can buy oil, and everyeconomy needs oil. Dollar hegemony separates the trade value of every currency from direct connection to the productivity of the issuing economy to link it directly to the size of dollar reserves held by the issuing central bank. Dollar hegemony enables the US to own indirectly but essentially the entire global economy by requiring its wealth to be denominated in fiat dollars that the US can print at will with little in the way of monetary penalties
Constantly battling deflation with pilling debt on the public has an end point somewhere and that point is probably losing our reserve currency status as the world loses confidence in the US financial system.
September 21, 2009 at 9:24 AM #460191ArrayaParticipantMoney and credit are either increasing in availability or decreasing in availability relative to goods and services. We are doing one or the other at all times. The system is normally inflationary, we have been doing it for decades. You can’t just turn a credit market collapse, which is a massively deflationary force, into inflation overnight without serious consequences. IMO, the serious consequences are quickly approaching.
We are deflating now. Mish is mostly correct. Public debt did not offset private credit destruction, we have had a net contraction. Which is DEFLATION.
Chris Martenson quantifies this here in this article:
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/flow-funds-analysis-big-declines-credit-market-debt-except-government/27767
Since it is not possible for the government to become the perpetual source of all new borrowing, for the old economic paradigm to work it is imperative that consumers and businesses pick up the borrowing baton and race off with it.However, as many outside of the main economic echo chambers have already divined, it may simply be that there is a “new normal” out there that does not include a return to the former trajectory of borrowing. If so, then the government attempts to “plug the gap,” while crossing their fingers and waiting for everyone to get back in the race, will fail.
I have resolved myself to a new normal, a much lower normal, and my main concern centers on whether the government will arrive at the same conclusion before the dollar is ruined, or after.
Devaluation comes in when the world loses confidence in the dollar and it devalues from lack of demand for dollars. I’m not sure if it is technically inflation when that happens because it does not matter how much or little money is being created.
Henry C Lu explains the dollar as reserve currency here. He also claims to be the one that convinced china to stop using the dollar.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/JG30Cb01.html
Dollar hegemony is a geopolitically constructed peculiarity through which critical commodities, the most notable being oil, are denominated in fiat dollars, not backed by gold or other species since then president Richard Nixon took the US dollar off gold in 1971. The recycling of petro-dollars into other dollar assets is the price the US has extracted from oil-producing countries for US tolerance of the oil-exporting cartel since 1973. After that, everyone accepts dollars because dollars can buy oil, and everyeconomy needs oil. Dollar hegemony separates the trade value of every currency from direct connection to the productivity of the issuing economy to link it directly to the size of dollar reserves held by the issuing central bank. Dollar hegemony enables the US to own indirectly but essentially the entire global economy by requiring its wealth to be denominated in fiat dollars that the US can print at will with little in the way of monetary penalties
Constantly battling deflation with pilling debt on the public has an end point somewhere and that point is probably losing our reserve currency status as the world loses confidence in the US financial system.
September 21, 2009 at 9:24 AM #460264ArrayaParticipantMoney and credit are either increasing in availability or decreasing in availability relative to goods and services. We are doing one or the other at all times. The system is normally inflationary, we have been doing it for decades. You can’t just turn a credit market collapse, which is a massively deflationary force, into inflation overnight without serious consequences. IMO, the serious consequences are quickly approaching.
We are deflating now. Mish is mostly correct. Public debt did not offset private credit destruction, we have had a net contraction. Which is DEFLATION.
Chris Martenson quantifies this here in this article:
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/flow-funds-analysis-big-declines-credit-market-debt-except-government/27767
Since it is not possible for the government to become the perpetual source of all new borrowing, for the old economic paradigm to work it is imperative that consumers and businesses pick up the borrowing baton and race off with it.However, as many outside of the main economic echo chambers have already divined, it may simply be that there is a “new normal” out there that does not include a return to the former trajectory of borrowing. If so, then the government attempts to “plug the gap,” while crossing their fingers and waiting for everyone to get back in the race, will fail.
I have resolved myself to a new normal, a much lower normal, and my main concern centers on whether the government will arrive at the same conclusion before the dollar is ruined, or after.
Devaluation comes in when the world loses confidence in the dollar and it devalues from lack of demand for dollars. I’m not sure if it is technically inflation when that happens because it does not matter how much or little money is being created.
Henry C Lu explains the dollar as reserve currency here. He also claims to be the one that convinced china to stop using the dollar.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/JG30Cb01.html
Dollar hegemony is a geopolitically constructed peculiarity through which critical commodities, the most notable being oil, are denominated in fiat dollars, not backed by gold or other species since then president Richard Nixon took the US dollar off gold in 1971. The recycling of petro-dollars into other dollar assets is the price the US has extracted from oil-producing countries for US tolerance of the oil-exporting cartel since 1973. After that, everyone accepts dollars because dollars can buy oil, and everyeconomy needs oil. Dollar hegemony separates the trade value of every currency from direct connection to the productivity of the issuing economy to link it directly to the size of dollar reserves held by the issuing central bank. Dollar hegemony enables the US to own indirectly but essentially the entire global economy by requiring its wealth to be denominated in fiat dollars that the US can print at will with little in the way of monetary penalties
Constantly battling deflation with pilling debt on the public has an end point somewhere and that point is probably losing our reserve currency status as the world loses confidence in the US financial system.
September 21, 2009 at 4:17 PM #459841patientrenterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]…No matter how many pints of whiskey Bernanke sets in front of someone passed out on the floor, liquor sales will not rise.[/quote]
Well, that would be a good analogy for true debt (the type you have to pay back). But the govt has learned to use more and more debt that doesn’t have to be paid back. Non-recourse loans with little or no money down allow a borrower to capture the upside, while walking away from the downside. This kind of loan is the FHA’s specialty. With this kind of loan, the borrower is best off buying the biggest home they will qualify for. Using lots of loans like this, it is possible to reflate, and eventually inflate.
September 21, 2009 at 4:17 PM #460439patientrenterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]…No matter how many pints of whiskey Bernanke sets in front of someone passed out on the floor, liquor sales will not rise.[/quote]
Well, that would be a good analogy for true debt (the type you have to pay back). But the govt has learned to use more and more debt that doesn’t have to be paid back. Non-recourse loans with little or no money down allow a borrower to capture the upside, while walking away from the downside. This kind of loan is the FHA’s specialty. With this kind of loan, the borrower is best off buying the biggest home they will qualify for. Using lots of loans like this, it is possible to reflate, and eventually inflate.
September 21, 2009 at 4:17 PM #460030patientrenterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]…No matter how many pints of whiskey Bernanke sets in front of someone passed out on the floor, liquor sales will not rise.[/quote]
Well, that would be a good analogy for true debt (the type you have to pay back). But the govt has learned to use more and more debt that doesn’t have to be paid back. Non-recourse loans with little or no money down allow a borrower to capture the upside, while walking away from the downside. This kind of loan is the FHA’s specialty. With this kind of loan, the borrower is best off buying the biggest home they will qualify for. Using lots of loans like this, it is possible to reflate, and eventually inflate.
September 21, 2009 at 4:17 PM #460365patientrenterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]…No matter how many pints of whiskey Bernanke sets in front of someone passed out on the floor, liquor sales will not rise.[/quote]
Well, that would be a good analogy for true debt (the type you have to pay back). But the govt has learned to use more and more debt that doesn’t have to be paid back. Non-recourse loans with little or no money down allow a borrower to capture the upside, while walking away from the downside. This kind of loan is the FHA’s specialty. With this kind of loan, the borrower is best off buying the biggest home they will qualify for. Using lots of loans like this, it is possible to reflate, and eventually inflate.
September 21, 2009 at 4:17 PM #460639patientrenterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]…No matter how many pints of whiskey Bernanke sets in front of someone passed out on the floor, liquor sales will not rise.[/quote]
Well, that would be a good analogy for true debt (the type you have to pay back). But the govt has learned to use more and more debt that doesn’t have to be paid back. Non-recourse loans with little or no money down allow a borrower to capture the upside, while walking away from the downside. This kind of loan is the FHA’s specialty. With this kind of loan, the borrower is best off buying the biggest home they will qualify for. Using lots of loans like this, it is possible to reflate, and eventually inflate.
September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM #460469jpinpbParticipantBut with nothing to lose, they can walk. I just read about strategic walkers. With the way it’s set up, seems like a neverending problem.
September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM #460395jpinpbParticipantBut with nothing to lose, they can walk. I just read about strategic walkers. With the way it’s set up, seems like a neverending problem.
September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM #460669jpinpbParticipantBut with nothing to lose, they can walk. I just read about strategic walkers. With the way it’s set up, seems like a neverending problem.
September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM #460058jpinpbParticipantBut with nothing to lose, they can walk. I just read about strategic walkers. With the way it’s set up, seems like a neverending problem.
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