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  • August 1, 2008 at 11:35 AM #13490
    Noob
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    A few weeks ago, before the Senate voted on their version of the housing bill, I wrote to both of California’s Senators. I also wrote letters to 2 representatives, in the districts where I own property. It was already too late for the House, but I wrote a professional, short plea for the Senators to vote against the housing bill — I had no expectation that they would, being that they are Democrats.

    Senator Boxer (or at least her staff) had the courtesy to send me a response, while I have heard nothing to date from the other 3. While I did not agree with her vote on this bill, nor would I support her in any reelection bid, I am quite pleased with her response and defense of her vote. At least she did not waffle.

    She did point a few items that I was unaware of. I though some other piggs may be interested in what she said. Here is what she sent to me:

    Thank you for contacting me regarding the current foreclosure crisis. I appreciate hearing from you.

    I am pleased that the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 has passed Congress and was signed into law on July 30, 2008 as P.L. 110-289.

    Although this legislation will not solve all the problems in the current crisis, it includes wide-ranging measures to help stabilize the housing market, provide help to homeowners and renters, and help get our economy back on track. The new law also helps communities that have been hit hardest by the foreclosure crisis by providing $3.9 billion in emergency assistance to purchase and redevelop abandoned and foreclosed properties.

    I am enclosing a document of frequently asked questions , which I trust will explain the way the bill will work.

    All of the costs of this legislation are covered by revenue-raising provisions within the Act, ensuring that P.L. 110-289 meets pay-as-you-go standards. The Hope For Homeowners program is narrowly tailored to keep families in their homes. No speculators, investment properties, or second or third homes will be refinanced. Similarly, lenders will have to take a significant loss on the original loan, waive any penalties or fees, and help pay for the origination and closing costs of the new loans.

    The goal of this bill is to help keep families in their homes and stop the further deterioration of the communities we hold so dear. I will do everything in my power to make sure this bill does that job, but if more legislation is needed I will not hesitate to fight for it.

    Again, thank you for writing to me. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future on this or other issues that concern you.

    ***

    ABCs of the “Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008”

    On July 30, 2008, the President signed into law the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 to address the ongoing housing crisis. Although the crisis will not end with this legislation, it is an important first step to help keep families in their homes and stop the further deterioration of the communities being hardest hit.

    Q: How will the law help struggling homeowners keep their homes?

    A: Through the Federal Housing Administration (FHA), an estimated 400,000 borrowers in danger of losing their homes will be able to refinance into more affordable government-insured mortgages. The program offers government insurance to lenders who voluntarily reduce mortgages for at-risk homeowners to at least 90% of the property’s current value.

    Q: When will the program begin?

    A: The program will begin on October 1, 2008 and sunset on September 30, 2011. H omeowners in danger of losing their homes before October 1, however, should not wait to contact their loan servicers and should begin applying for federal ly insured mortgages now.

    Q: Who is eligible?

    A: To be eligible to participate in this program, a borrower must:

    Have a loan on an owner-occupied principal residence. Investors, speculators, or borrowers who own second homes cannot participate in this program.

    Have a monthly mortgage payment greater than at least 31 percent of the borrower’s total monthly income, as of March 1, 2008.

    Certify that he or she has not intentionally defaulted on an existing mortgage, and did not obtain the existing loan fraudulently.

    Not have been convicted of fraud.

    Q: How can a homeowner access this new program?

    A: Homeowners or a servicer of an existing eligible loan need to contact an FHA-approved lender. The FHA-approved lender will determine the size of a loan that a borrower can reasonably repay and that meets the requirements of the program. If the current lender or mortgage holder agrees to write-down the amount of the existing mortgage and make the new loan affordable, the FHA lender will pay off the discounted existing mortgage. Loans provided under this program must be 30-year fixed rate loans.

    Q: Are lenders required to participate in this program?

    A: No. The program is completely voluntary for lenders, investors, loan servicers, and borrowers.

    Q: How does this law help neighborhoods that have been hit by the foreclosure crisis?

    A: The impact of the current crisis has not been isolated to individual borrowers or investors, but has been felt broadly by neighbors, communities, and governments across the nation. The law strengthens neighborhoods hit hardest by the foreclosure crisis by providing $3.9 billion in Community Development Block Grants to states and localities to buy foreclosed homes standing empty, rehabilitate foreclosed properties, and stabilize the housing market.

    Q: Will this law be a bailout for speculators, homeowners, investors, and lenders?

    A: No. It is narrowly tailored to keep families in their homes. For example:

    Only primary residences are eligible: NO speculators, investment properties, second or third homes will be refinanced.

    Investors and lenders must take big losses first in order even to participate. The owner of the old mortgage can get a maximum of 90% of the current value of the home (which presumably will be considerably less than the value of the original loan). In many cases the loss will be significantly greater, but 10% is the minimum.

    In addition, lenders must waive any penalties or fees, and help pay for the origination and closing costs of the new loans.

    Most homeowners will have seen the equity in their homes disappear before being able to refinance under this program. In addition, the FHA will get a portion of any future profits on the house, to make sure the government recoups its investment over the long run.

    Q: Will this law reward families who bought homes they could not afford?

    A: Many homeowners facing foreclosure were misled, were deceived, or were in other ways the victims of unfair lending practices.

    To prevent future abuses by lenders, this law will establish a nationwide loan originator licensing and registration system to set minimum standards for all residential mortgage brokers and lenders. It also strengthens mortgage disclosure requirements to help ensure that borrowers understand their mortgage loan terms.

    Q: How will this law make it more affordable to own a home?

    A: There are a number of provisions that will make homeownership more affordable:

    Creates a refundable tax credit for first-time homebuyers that works like an interest-free loan of up to $7,500 (to be paid back over 15 years).

    Grants states $11 billion of additional tax-exempt bond authority in 2008 that they can use to refinance subprime loans, make loans to first-time homebuyers and to finance the building of affordable rental housing.

    Raises conforming loan limits for the FHA, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to $625,500. Because of the high cost of housing in California, a majority of the state’s residents were previously shut out from these programs. Raising these loan limits will lead to lower interest rates on some loans, greater refinancing opportunities, and enable more borrowers in high cost areas to avoid the type of nontraditional and frequently abusive loans that led to the current crisis.

    Provides couples using the standard deduction with up to an additional $1,000 deduction for property taxes ($500 for individuals).

    Q: Does the law provide help to those who still cannot afford to own a home?

    A: Yes. The bill includes a number of provisions to increase the supply of affordable housing, which has been a major problem in California pre-dating the current foreclosure crisis. For example:

    The bill creates a new permanent affordable housing trust fund – financed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and not by taxpayers – to fund the construction, maintenance and preservation of affordable rental housing for low and very low-income individuals and families nationwide in both rural and urban areas.

    In addition, the legislation provides a temporary increase in the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit and simplification of the credit to help put builders to work to create new options for families seeking affordable housing alternatives.

    Barbara Boxer
    United States Senator

    Please visit my website at http://boxer.senate.gov

    August 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM #250435
    PCinSD
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    I’m certain other posters will be quick to point out the more unimpressive points the Senator makes. Here’s a few quick ones:

    1. “No speculators homes will be refinanced”. Many people who bought principle residences speculated on the housing market. They presumed prices would continue to go up. They speculated wrong. They will be able to refinance under this bill.

    2. “The goal of this bill is to help keep families in their homes and stop the further deterioration of the communities we hold so dear.” Right there, she attempts to appeal to your emotions rather than commons sense. Families? How about single folks? Do they get assistance from the bill? The deterioration of the communities we hold so dear is another way of saying prices coming back to reality for the more responsible people who can now or in the near future afford to live there. How can that be considered “deterioration”? Those vacant lots will eventually purchased by folks who can afford them. No deterioration other than affordability. If those same families rent homes in those same communities I fail to see how that deteriorates the community.

    3. “Q: Will this law reward families who bought homes they could not afford?
    A: Many homeowners facing foreclosure were misled, were deceived, or were in other ways the victims of unfair lending practices.”

    I notice she didn’t answer the question. That’s because she would have had to answer “yes”. If this bill has a way of identifying only the victims of predatory lending or fraud – fine. Some homeowners were misled. However, most were not. They wanted a home, saw a way to get one, understood that everyone around them was making unseen before increases in equity and wanted in on the action. This law rewards every single family that was not misled or otherwise victims of predatory lending.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM #250663
    PCinSD
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    I’m certain other posters will be quick to point out the more unimpressive points the Senator makes. Here’s a few quick ones:

    1. “No speculators homes will be refinanced”. Many people who bought principle residences speculated on the housing market. They presumed prices would continue to go up. They speculated wrong. They will be able to refinance under this bill.

    2. “The goal of this bill is to help keep families in their homes and stop the further deterioration of the communities we hold so dear.” Right there, she attempts to appeal to your emotions rather than commons sense. Families? How about single folks? Do they get assistance from the bill? The deterioration of the communities we hold so dear is another way of saying prices coming back to reality for the more responsible people who can now or in the near future afford to live there. How can that be considered “deterioration”? Those vacant lots will eventually purchased by folks who can afford them. No deterioration other than affordability. If those same families rent homes in those same communities I fail to see how that deteriorates the community.

    3. “Q: Will this law reward families who bought homes they could not afford?
    A: Many homeowners facing foreclosure were misled, were deceived, or were in other ways the victims of unfair lending practices.”

    I notice she didn’t answer the question. That’s because she would have had to answer “yes”. If this bill has a way of identifying only the victims of predatory lending or fraud – fine. Some homeowners were misled. However, most were not. They wanted a home, saw a way to get one, understood that everyone around them was making unseen before increases in equity and wanted in on the action. This law rewards every single family that was not misled or otherwise victims of predatory lending.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM #250655
    PCinSD
    Guest

    I’m certain other posters will be quick to point out the more unimpressive points the Senator makes. Here’s a few quick ones:

    1. “No speculators homes will be refinanced”. Many people who bought principle residences speculated on the housing market. They presumed prices would continue to go up. They speculated wrong. They will be able to refinance under this bill.

    2. “The goal of this bill is to help keep families in their homes and stop the further deterioration of the communities we hold so dear.” Right there, she attempts to appeal to your emotions rather than commons sense. Families? How about single folks? Do they get assistance from the bill? The deterioration of the communities we hold so dear is another way of saying prices coming back to reality for the more responsible people who can now or in the near future afford to live there. How can that be considered “deterioration”? Those vacant lots will eventually purchased by folks who can afford them. No deterioration other than affordability. If those same families rent homes in those same communities I fail to see how that deteriorates the community.

    3. “Q: Will this law reward families who bought homes they could not afford?
    A: Many homeowners facing foreclosure were misled, were deceived, or were in other ways the victims of unfair lending practices.”

    I notice she didn’t answer the question. That’s because she would have had to answer “yes”. If this bill has a way of identifying only the victims of predatory lending or fraud – fine. Some homeowners were misled. However, most were not. They wanted a home, saw a way to get one, understood that everyone around them was making unseen before increases in equity and wanted in on the action. This law rewards every single family that was not misled or otherwise victims of predatory lending.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM #250591
    PCinSD
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    I’m certain other posters will be quick to point out the more unimpressive points the Senator makes. Here’s a few quick ones:

    1. “No speculators homes will be refinanced”. Many people who bought principle residences speculated on the housing market. They presumed prices would continue to go up. They speculated wrong. They will be able to refinance under this bill.

    2. “The goal of this bill is to help keep families in their homes and stop the further deterioration of the communities we hold so dear.” Right there, she attempts to appeal to your emotions rather than commons sense. Families? How about single folks? Do they get assistance from the bill? The deterioration of the communities we hold so dear is another way of saying prices coming back to reality for the more responsible people who can now or in the near future afford to live there. How can that be considered “deterioration”? Those vacant lots will eventually purchased by folks who can afford them. No deterioration other than affordability. If those same families rent homes in those same communities I fail to see how that deteriorates the community.

    3. “Q: Will this law reward families who bought homes they could not afford?
    A: Many homeowners facing foreclosure were misled, were deceived, or were in other ways the victims of unfair lending practices.”

    I notice she didn’t answer the question. That’s because she would have had to answer “yes”. If this bill has a way of identifying only the victims of predatory lending or fraud – fine. Some homeowners were misled. However, most were not. They wanted a home, saw a way to get one, understood that everyone around them was making unseen before increases in equity and wanted in on the action. This law rewards every single family that was not misled or otherwise victims of predatory lending.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM #250599
    PCinSD
    Guest

    I’m certain other posters will be quick to point out the more unimpressive points the Senator makes. Here’s a few quick ones:

    1. “No speculators homes will be refinanced”. Many people who bought principle residences speculated on the housing market. They presumed prices would continue to go up. They speculated wrong. They will be able to refinance under this bill.

    2. “The goal of this bill is to help keep families in their homes and stop the further deterioration of the communities we hold so dear.” Right there, she attempts to appeal to your emotions rather than commons sense. Families? How about single folks? Do they get assistance from the bill? The deterioration of the communities we hold so dear is another way of saying prices coming back to reality for the more responsible people who can now or in the near future afford to live there. How can that be considered “deterioration”? Those vacant lots will eventually purchased by folks who can afford them. No deterioration other than affordability. If those same families rent homes in those same communities I fail to see how that deteriorates the community.

    3. “Q: Will this law reward families who bought homes they could not afford?
    A: Many homeowners facing foreclosure were misled, were deceived, or were in other ways the victims of unfair lending practices.”

    I notice she didn’t answer the question. That’s because she would have had to answer “yes”. If this bill has a way of identifying only the victims of predatory lending or fraud – fine. Some homeowners were misled. However, most were not. They wanted a home, saw a way to get one, understood that everyone around them was making unseen before increases in equity and wanted in on the action. This law rewards every single family that was not misled or otherwise victims of predatory lending.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM #250694
    nostradamus
    Participant

    Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

    Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

    This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

    All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

    I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM #250687
    nostradamus
    Participant

    Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

    Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

    This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

    All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

    I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM #250629
    nostradamus
    Participant

    Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

    Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

    This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

    All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

    I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM #250622
    nostradamus
    Participant

    Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

    Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

    This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

    All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

    I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM #250466
    nostradamus
    Participant

    Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

    Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

    This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

    All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

    I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

    August 1, 2008 at 12:47 PM #250704
    meadandale
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    As if I needed any more excuses as to why I never have voted for Babs and never will…

    August 1, 2008 at 12:47 PM #250632
    meadandale
    Participant

    As if I needed any more excuses as to why I never have voted for Babs and never will…

    August 1, 2008 at 12:47 PM #250639
    meadandale
    Participant

    As if I needed any more excuses as to why I never have voted for Babs and never will…

    August 1, 2008 at 12:47 PM #250697
    meadandale
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    As if I needed any more excuses as to why I never have voted for Babs and never will…

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