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July 25, 2008 at 10:20 PM #13429July 26, 2008 at 6:31 AM #247324EconProfParticipant
The differences are so numerous as to make any comparison unlikely. Vietnam required 600,000 troops, Iraq 160,000 or so. Iraq costing 1/12th the number of battle deaths as Vietnam. The Iraq experience has been overblown by the media by most historical comparisons.
Most of all, our economy now is far more open and deregulated, allowing production to expand (weaker unions) and imports to enter, thus holding down inflation. The problem during the 60s and 70s was demand-pull inflation in which our capacity was constrained, monetary policy was loose, and prices had nowhere to go but up.
Cost-push inflation was also then a factor via wage increases. Now cost-push is via oil and other resource prices going up. Wage inflation is not taking hold, and compensation remains a bigger cost component for busineses than natural resources.July 26, 2008 at 6:31 AM #247479EconProfParticipantThe differences are so numerous as to make any comparison unlikely. Vietnam required 600,000 troops, Iraq 160,000 or so. Iraq costing 1/12th the number of battle deaths as Vietnam. The Iraq experience has been overblown by the media by most historical comparisons.
Most of all, our economy now is far more open and deregulated, allowing production to expand (weaker unions) and imports to enter, thus holding down inflation. The problem during the 60s and 70s was demand-pull inflation in which our capacity was constrained, monetary policy was loose, and prices had nowhere to go but up.
Cost-push inflation was also then a factor via wage increases. Now cost-push is via oil and other resource prices going up. Wage inflation is not taking hold, and compensation remains a bigger cost component for busineses than natural resources.July 26, 2008 at 6:31 AM #247483EconProfParticipantThe differences are so numerous as to make any comparison unlikely. Vietnam required 600,000 troops, Iraq 160,000 or so. Iraq costing 1/12th the number of battle deaths as Vietnam. The Iraq experience has been overblown by the media by most historical comparisons.
Most of all, our economy now is far more open and deregulated, allowing production to expand (weaker unions) and imports to enter, thus holding down inflation. The problem during the 60s and 70s was demand-pull inflation in which our capacity was constrained, monetary policy was loose, and prices had nowhere to go but up.
Cost-push inflation was also then a factor via wage increases. Now cost-push is via oil and other resource prices going up. Wage inflation is not taking hold, and compensation remains a bigger cost component for busineses than natural resources.July 26, 2008 at 6:31 AM #247540EconProfParticipantThe differences are so numerous as to make any comparison unlikely. Vietnam required 600,000 troops, Iraq 160,000 or so. Iraq costing 1/12th the number of battle deaths as Vietnam. The Iraq experience has been overblown by the media by most historical comparisons.
Most of all, our economy now is far more open and deregulated, allowing production to expand (weaker unions) and imports to enter, thus holding down inflation. The problem during the 60s and 70s was demand-pull inflation in which our capacity was constrained, monetary policy was loose, and prices had nowhere to go but up.
Cost-push inflation was also then a factor via wage increases. Now cost-push is via oil and other resource prices going up. Wage inflation is not taking hold, and compensation remains a bigger cost component for busineses than natural resources.July 26, 2008 at 6:31 AM #247546EconProfParticipantThe differences are so numerous as to make any comparison unlikely. Vietnam required 600,000 troops, Iraq 160,000 or so. Iraq costing 1/12th the number of battle deaths as Vietnam. The Iraq experience has been overblown by the media by most historical comparisons.
Most of all, our economy now is far more open and deregulated, allowing production to expand (weaker unions) and imports to enter, thus holding down inflation. The problem during the 60s and 70s was demand-pull inflation in which our capacity was constrained, monetary policy was loose, and prices had nowhere to go but up.
Cost-push inflation was also then a factor via wage increases. Now cost-push is via oil and other resource prices going up. Wage inflation is not taking hold, and compensation remains a bigger cost component for busineses than natural resources.July 26, 2008 at 9:54 AM #247374AnonymousGuestEconProf – nice points. I don’t have the numbers, but I wonder if these are other points to consider:
1. Iraq and Afghanistan requires far fewer troops, but despite technology advancements or perhaps because of them, it appears it requires much more money in real terms to maintain these troops.
2. Iraq is costing 1/12th of the number of battle deaths as Vietnam – due to advancements in medical technology. However, many more are returning from the battlefield with serious wounds and, not to be harsh, will require extensive rehabilitation and continued medical care – more outlays for the government.
3. The Feds will continue to print money to prop up the GSEs, and perhaps the commercial banks when the FDIC runs dry, continuing to stoke inflation.
July 26, 2008 at 9:54 AM #247528AnonymousGuestEconProf – nice points. I don’t have the numbers, but I wonder if these are other points to consider:
1. Iraq and Afghanistan requires far fewer troops, but despite technology advancements or perhaps because of them, it appears it requires much more money in real terms to maintain these troops.
2. Iraq is costing 1/12th of the number of battle deaths as Vietnam – due to advancements in medical technology. However, many more are returning from the battlefield with serious wounds and, not to be harsh, will require extensive rehabilitation and continued medical care – more outlays for the government.
3. The Feds will continue to print money to prop up the GSEs, and perhaps the commercial banks when the FDIC runs dry, continuing to stoke inflation.
July 26, 2008 at 9:54 AM #247532AnonymousGuestEconProf – nice points. I don’t have the numbers, but I wonder if these are other points to consider:
1. Iraq and Afghanistan requires far fewer troops, but despite technology advancements or perhaps because of them, it appears it requires much more money in real terms to maintain these troops.
2. Iraq is costing 1/12th of the number of battle deaths as Vietnam – due to advancements in medical technology. However, many more are returning from the battlefield with serious wounds and, not to be harsh, will require extensive rehabilitation and continued medical care – more outlays for the government.
3. The Feds will continue to print money to prop up the GSEs, and perhaps the commercial banks when the FDIC runs dry, continuing to stoke inflation.
July 26, 2008 at 9:54 AM #247591AnonymousGuestEconProf – nice points. I don’t have the numbers, but I wonder if these are other points to consider:
1. Iraq and Afghanistan requires far fewer troops, but despite technology advancements or perhaps because of them, it appears it requires much more money in real terms to maintain these troops.
2. Iraq is costing 1/12th of the number of battle deaths as Vietnam – due to advancements in medical technology. However, many more are returning from the battlefield with serious wounds and, not to be harsh, will require extensive rehabilitation and continued medical care – more outlays for the government.
3. The Feds will continue to print money to prop up the GSEs, and perhaps the commercial banks when the FDIC runs dry, continuing to stoke inflation.
July 26, 2008 at 9:54 AM #247595AnonymousGuestEconProf – nice points. I don’t have the numbers, but I wonder if these are other points to consider:
1. Iraq and Afghanistan requires far fewer troops, but despite technology advancements or perhaps because of them, it appears it requires much more money in real terms to maintain these troops.
2. Iraq is costing 1/12th of the number of battle deaths as Vietnam – due to advancements in medical technology. However, many more are returning from the battlefield with serious wounds and, not to be harsh, will require extensive rehabilitation and continued medical care – more outlays for the government.
3. The Feds will continue to print money to prop up the GSEs, and perhaps the commercial banks when the FDIC runs dry, continuing to stoke inflation.
July 26, 2008 at 11:34 AM #247409bsrsharmaParticipantIraq war’s total cost nearing Vietnam’s price tag
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ihrXXebCc-1ukON23aArsxLrveNwD9256EK80
Here are the report’s estimated costs of major wars, in 2008 dollars, and their costs as a percentage of GDP in each of their peak years:
American Revolution: $1.8 billion; GDP figure not available
War of 1812: $1.2 billion; 2.2 percent
Civil War, Union: $45.2 billion; 11.3 percent
Civil War, Confederacy: $15.2 billion; GDP figure not available
World War I: $253 billion; 13.6 percent
World War II: $4.1 trillion; 35.8 percent
Korean War: $320 billion; 4.2 percent
Vietnam War: $686 billion; 2.3 percent
Gulf War: $96 billion; 0.3 percent
Iraq war: $648 billion; 1 percent
Afghanstian/Global war on terror: $171 billion; 0.3 percent
Post 9/11 domestic security: $33 billion; 0.1 percent
Post 9/11 operations: $859 billion; 1.2 percent
On the Net:* Congressional Research Service: http://www.crs.gov
July 26, 2008 at 11:34 AM #247563bsrsharmaParticipantIraq war’s total cost nearing Vietnam’s price tag
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ihrXXebCc-1ukON23aArsxLrveNwD9256EK80
Here are the report’s estimated costs of major wars, in 2008 dollars, and their costs as a percentage of GDP in each of their peak years:
American Revolution: $1.8 billion; GDP figure not available
War of 1812: $1.2 billion; 2.2 percent
Civil War, Union: $45.2 billion; 11.3 percent
Civil War, Confederacy: $15.2 billion; GDP figure not available
World War I: $253 billion; 13.6 percent
World War II: $4.1 trillion; 35.8 percent
Korean War: $320 billion; 4.2 percent
Vietnam War: $686 billion; 2.3 percent
Gulf War: $96 billion; 0.3 percent
Iraq war: $648 billion; 1 percent
Afghanstian/Global war on terror: $171 billion; 0.3 percent
Post 9/11 domestic security: $33 billion; 0.1 percent
Post 9/11 operations: $859 billion; 1.2 percent
On the Net:* Congressional Research Service: http://www.crs.gov
July 26, 2008 at 11:34 AM #247569bsrsharmaParticipantIraq war’s total cost nearing Vietnam’s price tag
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ihrXXebCc-1ukON23aArsxLrveNwD9256EK80
Here are the report’s estimated costs of major wars, in 2008 dollars, and their costs as a percentage of GDP in each of their peak years:
American Revolution: $1.8 billion; GDP figure not available
War of 1812: $1.2 billion; 2.2 percent
Civil War, Union: $45.2 billion; 11.3 percent
Civil War, Confederacy: $15.2 billion; GDP figure not available
World War I: $253 billion; 13.6 percent
World War II: $4.1 trillion; 35.8 percent
Korean War: $320 billion; 4.2 percent
Vietnam War: $686 billion; 2.3 percent
Gulf War: $96 billion; 0.3 percent
Iraq war: $648 billion; 1 percent
Afghanstian/Global war on terror: $171 billion; 0.3 percent
Post 9/11 domestic security: $33 billion; 0.1 percent
Post 9/11 operations: $859 billion; 1.2 percent
On the Net:* Congressional Research Service: http://www.crs.gov
July 26, 2008 at 11:34 AM #247625bsrsharmaParticipantIraq war’s total cost nearing Vietnam’s price tag
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ihrXXebCc-1ukON23aArsxLrveNwD9256EK80
Here are the report’s estimated costs of major wars, in 2008 dollars, and their costs as a percentage of GDP in each of their peak years:
American Revolution: $1.8 billion; GDP figure not available
War of 1812: $1.2 billion; 2.2 percent
Civil War, Union: $45.2 billion; 11.3 percent
Civil War, Confederacy: $15.2 billion; GDP figure not available
World War I: $253 billion; 13.6 percent
World War II: $4.1 trillion; 35.8 percent
Korean War: $320 billion; 4.2 percent
Vietnam War: $686 billion; 2.3 percent
Gulf War: $96 billion; 0.3 percent
Iraq war: $648 billion; 1 percent
Afghanstian/Global war on terror: $171 billion; 0.3 percent
Post 9/11 domestic security: $33 billion; 0.1 percent
Post 9/11 operations: $859 billion; 1.2 percent
On the Net:* Congressional Research Service: http://www.crs.gov
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