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January 14, 2008 at 11:09 AM #11502January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135520DaCounselorParticipant
If the DOW falls off a cliff I will add substantially to my DIA shares. I have recently added (last week) to positions in IWM and MDY at low points and plan to add to SPY and QQQQ depending on the severity of dips. As you can tell I am primarily an index guy.
With the exception of some biotech and tech stocks I am mostly a value guy when it comes to individual stocks, so I’m watching the financials, retail and home-related industry companies. There appear to be some unbelievable discounts right now, but it’s only a discount if the company survives and the stock goes up. Discounts are only confirmed in the rear-view mirror. I also track two indices – ITB and XHB, which are both beaten down bad. I’m not sure the downward trend is over yet, though.
January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135819DaCounselorParticipantIf the DOW falls off a cliff I will add substantially to my DIA shares. I have recently added (last week) to positions in IWM and MDY at low points and plan to add to SPY and QQQQ depending on the severity of dips. As you can tell I am primarily an index guy.
With the exception of some biotech and tech stocks I am mostly a value guy when it comes to individual stocks, so I’m watching the financials, retail and home-related industry companies. There appear to be some unbelievable discounts right now, but it’s only a discount if the company survives and the stock goes up. Discounts are only confirmed in the rear-view mirror. I also track two indices – ITB and XHB, which are both beaten down bad. I’m not sure the downward trend is over yet, though.
January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135778DaCounselorParticipantIf the DOW falls off a cliff I will add substantially to my DIA shares. I have recently added (last week) to positions in IWM and MDY at low points and plan to add to SPY and QQQQ depending on the severity of dips. As you can tell I am primarily an index guy.
With the exception of some biotech and tech stocks I am mostly a value guy when it comes to individual stocks, so I’m watching the financials, retail and home-related industry companies. There appear to be some unbelievable discounts right now, but it’s only a discount if the company survives and the stock goes up. Discounts are only confirmed in the rear-view mirror. I also track two indices – ITB and XHB, which are both beaten down bad. I’m not sure the downward trend is over yet, though.
January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135721DaCounselorParticipantIf the DOW falls off a cliff I will add substantially to my DIA shares. I have recently added (last week) to positions in IWM and MDY at low points and plan to add to SPY and QQQQ depending on the severity of dips. As you can tell I am primarily an index guy.
With the exception of some biotech and tech stocks I am mostly a value guy when it comes to individual stocks, so I’m watching the financials, retail and home-related industry companies. There appear to be some unbelievable discounts right now, but it’s only a discount if the company survives and the stock goes up. Discounts are only confirmed in the rear-view mirror. I also track two indices – ITB and XHB, which are both beaten down bad. I’m not sure the downward trend is over yet, though.
January 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM #135717DaCounselorParticipantIf the DOW falls off a cliff I will add substantially to my DIA shares. I have recently added (last week) to positions in IWM and MDY at low points and plan to add to SPY and QQQQ depending on the severity of dips. As you can tell I am primarily an index guy.
With the exception of some biotech and tech stocks I am mostly a value guy when it comes to individual stocks, so I’m watching the financials, retail and home-related industry companies. There appear to be some unbelievable discounts right now, but it’s only a discount if the company survives and the stock goes up. Discounts are only confirmed in the rear-view mirror. I also track two indices – ITB and XHB, which are both beaten down bad. I’m not sure the downward trend is over yet, though.
January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135844stockstradrParticipantFirst, I consider Warren Buffet to be a personal hero and an inspiration to all. I have many of his books and have even read some of them.
I should note that I’m NOT a professional stock trader (as my nickname would indicate) although I do play one on here.
>> I have already dumped most of my long stocks and am in a holding pattern for D-day.
My response: If you’re expecting “D-Day” as I am, why not short the market?
I certainly haven’t held any LONG stock positions for over a year. If you are implying that you liquidated your long positions after the markets recently tanked 10% you won’t get any awards from us on your stock market savvy.
You write you’ve dumped most of your long positions and now in a holding pattern. Well, recently I’ve dumped most of my SHORT positions (after I made a good deal of money as the market recently tanked 10%), and I’m in a holding pattern while the markets continue this TEMPORARY minor recovery apparently driven by expected end of month FOMC 1/2 point rate drop. When this minor recovery seems to have run out of steam after estimated 5% (possible) or 10% (doubtful) upswing, I will take those short positions again in a Big Way. We are now entering a very nasty recession. Read Barron’s from this last weekend; see the comments in the roundtable discussion interviews. Those people are a order-of-magnitude smarter than me on the financial markets, and many are expecting the worst.
I continue to hold gold, and am increasing my exposure to gold. Some people talk about $1,000/ounce gold. Since the idiotic FOMC appears to have chosen the “print money” approach to this economic crisis (and to the larger problem of America’s excessive foreign debt), I’m thinking we may see a response in gold markets taking the price to $2,000/ounce, and that may happen within 24-36 months.
January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135545stockstradrParticipantFirst, I consider Warren Buffet to be a personal hero and an inspiration to all. I have many of his books and have even read some of them.
I should note that I’m NOT a professional stock trader (as my nickname would indicate) although I do play one on here.
>> I have already dumped most of my long stocks and am in a holding pattern for D-day.
My response: If you’re expecting “D-Day” as I am, why not short the market?
I certainly haven’t held any LONG stock positions for over a year. If you are implying that you liquidated your long positions after the markets recently tanked 10% you won’t get any awards from us on your stock market savvy.
You write you’ve dumped most of your long positions and now in a holding pattern. Well, recently I’ve dumped most of my SHORT positions (after I made a good deal of money as the market recently tanked 10%), and I’m in a holding pattern while the markets continue this TEMPORARY minor recovery apparently driven by expected end of month FOMC 1/2 point rate drop. When this minor recovery seems to have run out of steam after estimated 5% (possible) or 10% (doubtful) upswing, I will take those short positions again in a Big Way. We are now entering a very nasty recession. Read Barron’s from this last weekend; see the comments in the roundtable discussion interviews. Those people are a order-of-magnitude smarter than me on the financial markets, and many are expecting the worst.
I continue to hold gold, and am increasing my exposure to gold. Some people talk about $1,000/ounce gold. Since the idiotic FOMC appears to have chosen the “print money” approach to this economic crisis (and to the larger problem of America’s excessive foreign debt), I’m thinking we may see a response in gold markets taking the price to $2,000/ounce, and that may happen within 24-36 months.
January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135742stockstradrParticipantFirst, I consider Warren Buffet to be a personal hero and an inspiration to all. I have many of his books and have even read some of them.
I should note that I’m NOT a professional stock trader (as my nickname would indicate) although I do play one on here.
>> I have already dumped most of my long stocks and am in a holding pattern for D-day.
My response: If you’re expecting “D-Day” as I am, why not short the market?
I certainly haven’t held any LONG stock positions for over a year. If you are implying that you liquidated your long positions after the markets recently tanked 10% you won’t get any awards from us on your stock market savvy.
You write you’ve dumped most of your long positions and now in a holding pattern. Well, recently I’ve dumped most of my SHORT positions (after I made a good deal of money as the market recently tanked 10%), and I’m in a holding pattern while the markets continue this TEMPORARY minor recovery apparently driven by expected end of month FOMC 1/2 point rate drop. When this minor recovery seems to have run out of steam after estimated 5% (possible) or 10% (doubtful) upswing, I will take those short positions again in a Big Way. We are now entering a very nasty recession. Read Barron’s from this last weekend; see the comments in the roundtable discussion interviews. Those people are a order-of-magnitude smarter than me on the financial markets, and many are expecting the worst.
I continue to hold gold, and am increasing my exposure to gold. Some people talk about $1,000/ounce gold. Since the idiotic FOMC appears to have chosen the “print money” approach to this economic crisis (and to the larger problem of America’s excessive foreign debt), I’m thinking we may see a response in gold markets taking the price to $2,000/ounce, and that may happen within 24-36 months.
January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135746stockstradrParticipantFirst, I consider Warren Buffet to be a personal hero and an inspiration to all. I have many of his books and have even read some of them.
I should note that I’m NOT a professional stock trader (as my nickname would indicate) although I do play one on here.
>> I have already dumped most of my long stocks and am in a holding pattern for D-day.
My response: If you’re expecting “D-Day” as I am, why not short the market?
I certainly haven’t held any LONG stock positions for over a year. If you are implying that you liquidated your long positions after the markets recently tanked 10% you won’t get any awards from us on your stock market savvy.
You write you’ve dumped most of your long positions and now in a holding pattern. Well, recently I’ve dumped most of my SHORT positions (after I made a good deal of money as the market recently tanked 10%), and I’m in a holding pattern while the markets continue this TEMPORARY minor recovery apparently driven by expected end of month FOMC 1/2 point rate drop. When this minor recovery seems to have run out of steam after estimated 5% (possible) or 10% (doubtful) upswing, I will take those short positions again in a Big Way. We are now entering a very nasty recession. Read Barron’s from this last weekend; see the comments in the roundtable discussion interviews. Those people are a order-of-magnitude smarter than me on the financial markets, and many are expecting the worst.
I continue to hold gold, and am increasing my exposure to gold. Some people talk about $1,000/ounce gold. Since the idiotic FOMC appears to have chosen the “print money” approach to this economic crisis (and to the larger problem of America’s excessive foreign debt), I’m thinking we may see a response in gold markets taking the price to $2,000/ounce, and that may happen within 24-36 months.
January 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM #135803stockstradrParticipantFirst, I consider Warren Buffet to be a personal hero and an inspiration to all. I have many of his books and have even read some of them.
I should note that I’m NOT a professional stock trader (as my nickname would indicate) although I do play one on here.
>> I have already dumped most of my long stocks and am in a holding pattern for D-day.
My response: If you’re expecting “D-Day” as I am, why not short the market?
I certainly haven’t held any LONG stock positions for over a year. If you are implying that you liquidated your long positions after the markets recently tanked 10% you won’t get any awards from us on your stock market savvy.
You write you’ve dumped most of your long positions and now in a holding pattern. Well, recently I’ve dumped most of my SHORT positions (after I made a good deal of money as the market recently tanked 10%), and I’m in a holding pattern while the markets continue this TEMPORARY minor recovery apparently driven by expected end of month FOMC 1/2 point rate drop. When this minor recovery seems to have run out of steam after estimated 5% (possible) or 10% (doubtful) upswing, I will take those short positions again in a Big Way. We are now entering a very nasty recession. Read Barron’s from this last weekend; see the comments in the roundtable discussion interviews. Those people are a order-of-magnitude smarter than me on the financial markets, and many are expecting the worst.
I continue to hold gold, and am increasing my exposure to gold. Some people talk about $1,000/ounce gold. Since the idiotic FOMC appears to have chosen the “print money” approach to this economic crisis (and to the larger problem of America’s excessive foreign debt), I’m thinking we may see a response in gold markets taking the price to $2,000/ounce, and that may happen within 24-36 months.
January 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM #135859Allan from FallbrookParticipantstockstradr: Financial Times seems to concur with your assessment as regards gold prices, and the potential for a steady upward climb over the next two to three years.
As far as Buffett goes: He is a Ben Graham guy all the way, and would push for value investing. The only problem with value investing at present is finding a “clean” set of books to look at, company-wise. To a certain extent, a lot of the companies being traded are “cooking” their books as regards accounting practices and how their respective balance sheets are being valued, both from the Asset and Liability side.
The FED/FOMC are completely helpless here, and the market’s continued tepid reaction to the rate cuts, as well as the severely restrained liquidity (reaction to the uncertainty as to whom is holding bad assets) is going to plague us for a while yet.
January 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM #135818Allan from FallbrookParticipantstockstradr: Financial Times seems to concur with your assessment as regards gold prices, and the potential for a steady upward climb over the next two to three years.
As far as Buffett goes: He is a Ben Graham guy all the way, and would push for value investing. The only problem with value investing at present is finding a “clean” set of books to look at, company-wise. To a certain extent, a lot of the companies being traded are “cooking” their books as regards accounting practices and how their respective balance sheets are being valued, both from the Asset and Liability side.
The FED/FOMC are completely helpless here, and the market’s continued tepid reaction to the rate cuts, as well as the severely restrained liquidity (reaction to the uncertainty as to whom is holding bad assets) is going to plague us for a while yet.
January 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM #135757Allan from FallbrookParticipantstockstradr: Financial Times seems to concur with your assessment as regards gold prices, and the potential for a steady upward climb over the next two to three years.
As far as Buffett goes: He is a Ben Graham guy all the way, and would push for value investing. The only problem with value investing at present is finding a “clean” set of books to look at, company-wise. To a certain extent, a lot of the companies being traded are “cooking” their books as regards accounting practices and how their respective balance sheets are being valued, both from the Asset and Liability side.
The FED/FOMC are completely helpless here, and the market’s continued tepid reaction to the rate cuts, as well as the severely restrained liquidity (reaction to the uncertainty as to whom is holding bad assets) is going to plague us for a while yet.
January 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM #135761Allan from FallbrookParticipantstockstradr: Financial Times seems to concur with your assessment as regards gold prices, and the potential for a steady upward climb over the next two to three years.
As far as Buffett goes: He is a Ben Graham guy all the way, and would push for value investing. The only problem with value investing at present is finding a “clean” set of books to look at, company-wise. To a certain extent, a lot of the companies being traded are “cooking” their books as regards accounting practices and how their respective balance sheets are being valued, both from the Asset and Liability side.
The FED/FOMC are completely helpless here, and the market’s continued tepid reaction to the rate cuts, as well as the severely restrained liquidity (reaction to the uncertainty as to whom is holding bad assets) is going to plague us for a while yet.
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