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November 1, 2007 at 8:33 AM #10782November 1, 2007 at 8:50 AM #94124RaybyrnesParticipant
My fatehr retired as a 15/ 10 IG and had the same decison. First thing is to point out that your missed the mark by not looking into this 10 or 15 years ago when you could have run the numbers to purchase a life insurance contract which would have allowed you to take the higher payout and would have covered you in the event of her death. I say this becaue if you ahve children and they elect to follow in mom’s footsteps they may wnat this information.
The next thing is to look at the age disparity. If you are equal in ages the likelihood of you outliving her is statistically small unless you have family histories that would suggest otherwise.
The safe play is to simply accept the death benefit. The opportunist in me says that if you know that financially you can weather a storm in the event of her unforseen death then go for the higher payout. The difference is only going to effect how much wealth you leave to your children.
If you want a hedge find out what the difference would be between the full payout and the reduced payout and see how much whole life insurance that would buy you. If you die before her than she can reassign the policy to your children. In this scenario you wouldn’t have wasted the reduced payout. Value of the poicy might also offset the higher cost of medical insurance for you.
November 1, 2007 at 8:50 AM #94162RaybyrnesParticipantMy fatehr retired as a 15/ 10 IG and had the same decison. First thing is to point out that your missed the mark by not looking into this 10 or 15 years ago when you could have run the numbers to purchase a life insurance contract which would have allowed you to take the higher payout and would have covered you in the event of her death. I say this becaue if you ahve children and they elect to follow in mom’s footsteps they may wnat this information.
The next thing is to look at the age disparity. If you are equal in ages the likelihood of you outliving her is statistically small unless you have family histories that would suggest otherwise.
The safe play is to simply accept the death benefit. The opportunist in me says that if you know that financially you can weather a storm in the event of her unforseen death then go for the higher payout. The difference is only going to effect how much wealth you leave to your children.
If you want a hedge find out what the difference would be between the full payout and the reduced payout and see how much whole life insurance that would buy you. If you die before her than she can reassign the policy to your children. In this scenario you wouldn’t have wasted the reduced payout. Value of the poicy might also offset the higher cost of medical insurance for you.
November 1, 2007 at 8:50 AM #94169RaybyrnesParticipantMy fatehr retired as a 15/ 10 IG and had the same decison. First thing is to point out that your missed the mark by not looking into this 10 or 15 years ago when you could have run the numbers to purchase a life insurance contract which would have allowed you to take the higher payout and would have covered you in the event of her death. I say this becaue if you ahve children and they elect to follow in mom’s footsteps they may wnat this information.
The next thing is to look at the age disparity. If you are equal in ages the likelihood of you outliving her is statistically small unless you have family histories that would suggest otherwise.
The safe play is to simply accept the death benefit. The opportunist in me says that if you know that financially you can weather a storm in the event of her unforseen death then go for the higher payout. The difference is only going to effect how much wealth you leave to your children.
If you want a hedge find out what the difference would be between the full payout and the reduced payout and see how much whole life insurance that would buy you. If you die before her than she can reassign the policy to your children. In this scenario you wouldn’t have wasted the reduced payout. Value of the poicy might also offset the higher cost of medical insurance for you.
November 1, 2007 at 8:50 AM #94127BoratParticipantUnless you’re worth millions, take the full pension and move to Canada ASAP. Any middle-class retiree who stays in the US hasn’t been paying attention. Medicaid/SS are on the way out. They’re going to be slashed to pay for more corporate welfare. The scam drug benefit was step 1. Next because of the huge drug payouts to big pharma, medicaid is gonna be in trouble and they’ll have to “fix” it which of course means privatization. And of course that means your insurance “provider” is gonna deny any claims you make while cheerfully cashing your premium checks. These will likely be at least $1000 a month because you’re getting up there in years. And that’s if you’re in perfect health! If you have diabetes, heart conditions, etc… forget it. No one will cover you at a price you can afford.
If you don’t want to go to Canada, you could just get into holistic/alternative medicine and forget about ever going to the doctor again.
Sorry to be so harsh but it really is that bad.
November 1, 2007 at 8:50 AM #94165BoratParticipantUnless you’re worth millions, take the full pension and move to Canada ASAP. Any middle-class retiree who stays in the US hasn’t been paying attention. Medicaid/SS are on the way out. They’re going to be slashed to pay for more corporate welfare. The scam drug benefit was step 1. Next because of the huge drug payouts to big pharma, medicaid is gonna be in trouble and they’ll have to “fix” it which of course means privatization. And of course that means your insurance “provider” is gonna deny any claims you make while cheerfully cashing your premium checks. These will likely be at least $1000 a month because you’re getting up there in years. And that’s if you’re in perfect health! If you have diabetes, heart conditions, etc… forget it. No one will cover you at a price you can afford.
If you don’t want to go to Canada, you could just get into holistic/alternative medicine and forget about ever going to the doctor again.
Sorry to be so harsh but it really is that bad.
November 1, 2007 at 8:50 AM #94174BoratParticipantUnless you’re worth millions, take the full pension and move to Canada ASAP. Any middle-class retiree who stays in the US hasn’t been paying attention. Medicaid/SS are on the way out. They’re going to be slashed to pay for more corporate welfare. The scam drug benefit was step 1. Next because of the huge drug payouts to big pharma, medicaid is gonna be in trouble and they’ll have to “fix” it which of course means privatization. And of course that means your insurance “provider” is gonna deny any claims you make while cheerfully cashing your premium checks. These will likely be at least $1000 a month because you’re getting up there in years. And that’s if you’re in perfect health! If you have diabetes, heart conditions, etc… forget it. No one will cover you at a price you can afford.
If you don’t want to go to Canada, you could just get into holistic/alternative medicine and forget about ever going to the doctor again.
Sorry to be so harsh but it really is that bad.
November 1, 2007 at 9:39 AM #94145CBadParticipantComing from a different angle, does she like her job? I see merits with both plans so it would come down to whether or not she still wants to work for me. If she can retire now and do something that she loves, you can’t put a price on that. But if she really enjoys her work that’s a different story.
November 1, 2007 at 9:39 AM #94183CBadParticipantComing from a different angle, does she like her job? I see merits with both plans so it would come down to whether or not she still wants to work for me. If she can retire now and do something that she loves, you can’t put a price on that. But if she really enjoys her work that’s a different story.
November 1, 2007 at 9:39 AM #94191CBadParticipantComing from a different angle, does she like her job? I see merits with both plans so it would come down to whether or not she still wants to work for me. If she can retire now and do something that she loves, you can’t put a price on that. But if she really enjoys her work that’s a different story.
November 1, 2007 at 9:41 AM #94185sdduuuudeParticipantJust because you are ineligible for insurance under her plan doesn’t mean you can’t get insurance or a long-term care plan and just pay monthly for it.
November 1, 2007 at 9:41 AM #94194sdduuuudeParticipantJust because you are ineligible for insurance under her plan doesn’t mean you can’t get insurance or a long-term care plan and just pay monthly for it.
November 1, 2007 at 9:41 AM #94148sdduuuudeParticipantJust because you are ineligible for insurance under her plan doesn’t mean you can’t get insurance or a long-term care plan and just pay monthly for it.
November 1, 2007 at 11:57 AM #94220pertinazzioParticipantThanks for the comments, one and all.
SDuuude wrote:
Just because you are ineligible for insurance under her plan doesn’t mean you can’t get insurance or a long-term care plan and just pay monthly for it.
Yeahh…. I thought of that but I may be uninsurable if I ever loose coverage because of past medical history. What I am thinking is this. If the good lord takes her, I use cobra to extend my coverage and then as that runs out I convert the policy to an individual policy. This is what i am unsure about: If I have cobra coverage can I force the insurer to convert the policy??????? I am willing to pay a very high deductable (over $10,000).
The other thing I wonder about is if I lie about my former health condition whether the new insurers would find out. Glad this is anonymous.
If the worst case scenario ever did come about. I think I would just ask them to let me die (with lots of painkillers) without being treated. That way I can leave something to my middle son who is having serious problems “launching”.
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November 1, 2007 at 11:57 AM #94258pertinazzioParticipantThanks for the comments, one and all.
SDuuude wrote:
Just because you are ineligible for insurance under her plan doesn’t mean you can’t get insurance or a long-term care plan and just pay monthly for it.
Yeahh…. I thought of that but I may be uninsurable if I ever loose coverage because of past medical history. What I am thinking is this. If the good lord takes her, I use cobra to extend my coverage and then as that runs out I convert the policy to an individual policy. This is what i am unsure about: If I have cobra coverage can I force the insurer to convert the policy??????? I am willing to pay a very high deductable (over $10,000).
The other thing I wonder about is if I lie about my former health condition whether the new insurers would find out. Glad this is anonymous.
If the worst case scenario ever did come about. I think I would just ask them to let me die (with lots of painkillers) without being treated. That way I can leave something to my middle son who is having serious problems “launching”.
rebus meis solicitus
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