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Great article, thanks for that. Nice tone. From the article:

“The math seems pretty simple. But apparently it’s too rigorous for many Republican politicians.

…Some politicians are in denial. Some are demagoguing. Some are just ducking. Scared.

The scared are rather pathetic. …they cower before conservative bloggers, radio talk entertainers and activists of a declining party.

It’s Republican dogma…” blah blah blah…

So let me get this straight: We’re in this mess because of conservative Republicans? Riigghht… Unbelievable. Gee, I can’t imagine why the LA Times and others like it have seen their circulations drop by a number roughly equivalent to half the electorate.

These Democrats are like obnoxious college professors with a gambling problem. Pedantic, condescending, oh and btw their lives are a total mess and “could you help out with a few bucks, you stupid little person. Pretty please, I’ll be good? Hey thanks for the cash. You Nazi!”

This situation is like a divorce that builds over time. One day, the breadwinner spouse, after years of coldness and verbal abuse, borne for the sake of the children or religious commitment etc, meets someone who treats them kindly, examines their life and decides screw this, I’m walking.

I’m happily situated as an employee right now. But if I start my own company or find a better opportunity, I’m outta here. I expect my ilk are legion.

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I live in “Point Loma Heights” (North side by SeaWorld).

As I recall, a RE agent once told us that Fleetridge has CC&R’s in place that prevent any buildups. So while there are nice houses there with large lots (10Ksqft being large for Pt Loma), I view them as “what you see is what you get.” You won’t be doing add-ons in Fleetridge.

Sunset Cliffs has no such blanket restrictions in place, though some homes have height restrictions because the individual neighbors have wangled it so. There’s a nice little house on Marseilles we looked at, but soured on it when we learned it had a restriction in place by the seller, who owns the house behind it.

That said, I haven’t chatted w/ anyone who lives in Fleetridge, have no scuttlebut on what it’s like. Those who live in Sunset Cliffs all love it.

Personally, La Playa would be my pick. But the Navy gas leak is a concern. Given our personal particulars, we’ll probably just build up in place one day.

[OnPoint]

I live in “Point Loma Heights” (North side by SeaWorld).

As I recall, a RE agent once told us that Fleetridge has CC&R’s in place that prevent any buildups. So while there are nice houses there with large lots (10Ksqft being large for Pt Loma), I view them as “what you see is what you get.” You won’t be doing add-ons in Fleetridge.

Sunset Cliffs has no such blanket restrictions in place, though some homes have height restrictions because the individual neighbors have wangled it so. There’s a nice little house on Marseilles we looked at, but soured on it when we learned it had a restriction in place by the seller, who owns the house behind it.

That said, I haven’t chatted w/ anyone who lives in Fleetridge, have no scuttlebut on what it’s like. Those who live in Sunset Cliffs all love it.

Personally, La Playa would be my pick. But the Navy gas leak is a concern. Given our personal particulars, we’ll probably just build up in place one day.

[OnPoint]

I live in “Point Loma Heights” (North side by SeaWorld).

As I recall, a RE agent once told us that Fleetridge has CC&R’s in place that prevent any buildups. So while there are nice houses there with large lots (10Ksqft being large for Pt Loma), I view them as “what you see is what you get.” You won’t be doing add-ons in Fleetridge.

Sunset Cliffs has no such blanket restrictions in place, though some homes have height restrictions because the individual neighbors have wangled it so. There’s a nice little house on Marseilles we looked at, but soured on it when we learned it had a restriction in place by the seller, who owns the house behind it.

That said, I haven’t chatted w/ anyone who lives in Fleetridge, have no scuttlebut on what it’s like. Those who live in Sunset Cliffs all love it.

Personally, La Playa would be my pick. But the Navy gas leak is a concern. Given our personal particulars, we’ll probably just build up in place one day.

[OnPoint]

I live in “Point Loma Heights” (North side by SeaWorld).

As I recall, a RE agent once told us that Fleetridge has CC&R’s in place that prevent any buildups. So while there are nice houses there with large lots (10Ksqft being large for Pt Loma), I view them as “what you see is what you get.” You won’t be doing add-ons in Fleetridge.

Sunset Cliffs has no such blanket restrictions in place, though some homes have height restrictions because the individual neighbors have wangled it so. There’s a nice little house on Marseilles we looked at, but soured on it when we learned it had a restriction in place by the seller, who owns the house behind it.

That said, I haven’t chatted w/ anyone who lives in Fleetridge, have no scuttlebut on what it’s like. Those who live in Sunset Cliffs all love it.

Personally, La Playa would be my pick. But the Navy gas leak is a concern. Given our personal particulars, we’ll probably just build up in place one day.

[OnPoint]

I live in “Point Loma Heights” (North side by SeaWorld).

As I recall, a RE agent once told us that Fleetridge has CC&R’s in place that prevent any buildups. So while there are nice houses there with large lots (10Ksqft being large for Pt Loma), I view them as “what you see is what you get.” You won’t be doing add-ons in Fleetridge.

Sunset Cliffs has no such blanket restrictions in place, though some homes have height restrictions because the individual neighbors have wangled it so. There’s a nice little house on Marseilles we looked at, but soured on it when we learned it had a restriction in place by the seller, who owns the house behind it.

That said, I haven’t chatted w/ anyone who lives in Fleetridge, have no scuttlebut on what it’s like. Those who live in Sunset Cliffs all love it.

Personally, La Playa would be my pick. But the Navy gas leak is a concern. Given our personal particulars, we’ll probably just build up in place one day.

[OnPoint]

[quote=svelte]If we can afford to spend $1 trillion to $2 trillion (projected total expenditure from this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/washington/19cost.html – also the original Bush Administration extimate for the Iraq War? $50 to $60 billion) looking for WMD in Iraq, then surely we can spend $1 trillion saving our own a$$.

I still fail to comprehend the number of people who, even after studying the Great Depression in school, still seem to think no govt intervention is the right answer.[/quote]

I won’t dispute you on the relative merit of war expenditures, but…

There are robust arguments that the gov’t caused the “Great” Depression. See Rothbard’s “America’s Great Depression for a start: http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Great-Depression-Murray-Rothbard/dp/0945466056/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221927310&sr=8-1

Of course, we don’t typically receive this perspective from state-run schools.

[OnPoint]

[quote=svelte]If we can afford to spend $1 trillion to $2 trillion (projected total expenditure from this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/washington/19cost.html – also the original Bush Administration extimate for the Iraq War? $50 to $60 billion) looking for WMD in Iraq, then surely we can spend $1 trillion saving our own a$$.

I still fail to comprehend the number of people who, even after studying the Great Depression in school, still seem to think no govt intervention is the right answer.[/quote]

I won’t dispute you on the relative merit of war expenditures, but…

There are robust arguments that the gov’t caused the “Great” Depression. See Rothbard’s “America’s Great Depression for a start: http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Great-Depression-Murray-Rothbard/dp/0945466056/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221927310&sr=8-1

Of course, we don’t typically receive this perspective from state-run schools.

[OnPoint]

[quote=svelte]If we can afford to spend $1 trillion to $2 trillion (projected total expenditure from this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/washington/19cost.html – also the original Bush Administration extimate for the Iraq War? $50 to $60 billion) looking for WMD in Iraq, then surely we can spend $1 trillion saving our own a$$.

I still fail to comprehend the number of people who, even after studying the Great Depression in school, still seem to think no govt intervention is the right answer.[/quote]

I won’t dispute you on the relative merit of war expenditures, but…

There are robust arguments that the gov’t caused the “Great” Depression. See Rothbard’s “America’s Great Depression for a start: http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Great-Depression-Murray-Rothbard/dp/0945466056/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221927310&sr=8-1

Of course, we don’t typically receive this perspective from state-run schools.

[OnPoint]

[quote=svelte]If we can afford to spend $1 trillion to $2 trillion (projected total expenditure from this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/washington/19cost.html – also the original Bush Administration extimate for the Iraq War? $50 to $60 billion) looking for WMD in Iraq, then surely we can spend $1 trillion saving our own a$$.

I still fail to comprehend the number of people who, even after studying the Great Depression in school, still seem to think no govt intervention is the right answer.[/quote]

I won’t dispute you on the relative merit of war expenditures, but…

There are robust arguments that the gov’t caused the “Great” Depression. See Rothbard’s “America’s Great Depression for a start: http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Great-Depression-Murray-Rothbard/dp/0945466056/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221927310&sr=8-1

Of course, we don’t typically receive this perspective from state-run schools.

[OnPoint]

[quote=svelte]If we can afford to spend $1 trillion to $2 trillion (projected total expenditure from this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/washington/19cost.html – also the original Bush Administration extimate for the Iraq War? $50 to $60 billion) looking for WMD in Iraq, then surely we can spend $1 trillion saving our own a$$.

I still fail to comprehend the number of people who, even after studying the Great Depression in school, still seem to think no govt intervention is the right answer.[/quote]

I won’t dispute you on the relative merit of war expenditures, but…

There are robust arguments that the gov’t caused the “Great” Depression. See Rothbard’s “America’s Great Depression for a start: http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Great-Depression-Murray-Rothbard/dp/0945466056/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221927310&sr=8-1

Of course, we don’t typically receive this perspective from state-run schools.

[OnPoint]

[quote=threadkiller]You betcha, and it will tear the hearts out of the greedy homeowners living there.[/quote]

Long-time Piggington reader, first time poster.

I guess I’m one of the greedy homeowners, I live a few blocks from there. I love Pt Loma, it’s a good fit for me personally. Low key vibe, genteel old folks, cool weather. I can ride my bike to work (downtown) along the bay, on the weekend I sometimes ride to the lighthouse. Daily I am thankful to live there.

I have lived in Pt Loma since 2000, except for 2 years we moved away to a McMansion in South Bay (or as I called it, “The MicroCastle”). I found this site around 2004, and it scared me into selling the new house, for which I am sooooo glad. Many thanks to the doomsayers on this board 🙂 You gave me the reinforcement I needed to drag my wife kicking & screaming out of a new “all granite countertops” house and back into an original 1950 cottage. Under the Lindbergh flightpath too 🙂

In reference to the house for sale, seems to me it’s not selling. Neither are the two around the corner on Hyacinth/Lotus. Months on the market, plenty of open houses, but no sales. I think the prices are falling, but you don’t see that reflected if the sale is not made. As the wife & I say, rolling our eyes, re the high asking prices around our neighborhood, “I hope they get it.” But they don’t.

Why don’t they lower their price? I don’t know for sure. But of my neighbors, the majority are long-time residents. And when I say longtime, for some that means 50+ years. Plenty of old folks, may not have to sell for money. If they’re offended by “low” offers, maybe they just sit tight?

But you know what really rips my heart out? That I did not connect the dots to short sell those companies holding securitized subprimes. I had all the facts in the hopper, and I even bailed out of properties based on my belief in a major downturn. Just didn’t put it together. Doh!

And lastly, kudos to Mr. Toscano for starting this site. I suspect it’s done a lot of people a lot of good. Shoulda said that years ago…

[OnPoint]

[quote=threadkiller]You betcha, and it will tear the hearts out of the greedy homeowners living there.[/quote]

Long-time Piggington reader, first time poster.

I guess I’m one of the greedy homeowners, I live a few blocks from there. I love Pt Loma, it’s a good fit for me personally. Low key vibe, genteel old folks, cool weather. I can ride my bike to work (downtown) along the bay, on the weekend I sometimes ride to the lighthouse. Daily I am thankful to live there.

I have lived in Pt Loma since 2000, except for 2 years we moved away to a McMansion in South Bay (or as I called it, “The MicroCastle”). I found this site around 2004, and it scared me into selling the new house, for which I am sooooo glad. Many thanks to the doomsayers on this board 🙂 You gave me the reinforcement I needed to drag my wife kicking & screaming out of a new “all granite countertops” house and back into an original 1950 cottage. Under the Lindbergh flightpath too 🙂

In reference to the house for sale, seems to me it’s not selling. Neither are the two around the corner on Hyacinth/Lotus. Months on the market, plenty of open houses, but no sales. I think the prices are falling, but you don’t see that reflected if the sale is not made. As the wife & I say, rolling our eyes, re the high asking prices around our neighborhood, “I hope they get it.” But they don’t.

Why don’t they lower their price? I don’t know for sure. But of my neighbors, the majority are long-time residents. And when I say longtime, for some that means 50+ years. Plenty of old folks, may not have to sell for money. If they’re offended by “low” offers, maybe they just sit tight?

But you know what really rips my heart out? That I did not connect the dots to short sell those companies holding securitized subprimes. I had all the facts in the hopper, and I even bailed out of properties based on my belief in a major downturn. Just didn’t put it together. Doh!

And lastly, kudos to Mr. Toscano for starting this site. I suspect it’s done a lot of people a lot of good. Shoulda said that years ago…

[OnPoint]

[quote=threadkiller]You betcha, and it will tear the hearts out of the greedy homeowners living there.[/quote]

Long-time Piggington reader, first time poster.

I guess I’m one of the greedy homeowners, I live a few blocks from there. I love Pt Loma, it’s a good fit for me personally. Low key vibe, genteel old folks, cool weather. I can ride my bike to work (downtown) along the bay, on the weekend I sometimes ride to the lighthouse. Daily I am thankful to live there.

I have lived in Pt Loma since 2000, except for 2 years we moved away to a McMansion in South Bay (or as I called it, “The MicroCastle”). I found this site around 2004, and it scared me into selling the new house, for which I am sooooo glad. Many thanks to the doomsayers on this board 🙂 You gave me the reinforcement I needed to drag my wife kicking & screaming out of a new “all granite countertops” house and back into an original 1950 cottage. Under the Lindbergh flightpath too 🙂

In reference to the house for sale, seems to me it’s not selling. Neither are the two around the corner on Hyacinth/Lotus. Months on the market, plenty of open houses, but no sales. I think the prices are falling, but you don’t see that reflected if the sale is not made. As the wife & I say, rolling our eyes, re the high asking prices around our neighborhood, “I hope they get it.” But they don’t.

Why don’t they lower their price? I don’t know for sure. But of my neighbors, the majority are long-time residents. And when I say longtime, for some that means 50+ years. Plenty of old folks, may not have to sell for money. If they’re offended by “low” offers, maybe they just sit tight?

But you know what really rips my heart out? That I did not connect the dots to short sell those companies holding securitized subprimes. I had all the facts in the hopper, and I even bailed out of properties based on my belief in a major downturn. Just didn’t put it together. Doh!

And lastly, kudos to Mr. Toscano for starting this site. I suspect it’s done a lot of people a lot of good. Shoulda said that years ago…

[OnPoint]

[quote=threadkiller]You betcha, and it will tear the hearts out of the greedy homeowners living there.[/quote]

Long-time Piggington reader, first time poster.

I guess I’m one of the greedy homeowners, I live a few blocks from there. I love Pt Loma, it’s a good fit for me personally. Low key vibe, genteel old folks, cool weather. I can ride my bike to work (downtown) along the bay, on the weekend I sometimes ride to the lighthouse. Daily I am thankful to live there.

I have lived in Pt Loma since 2000, except for 2 years we moved away to a McMansion in South Bay (or as I called it, “The MicroCastle”). I found this site around 2004, and it scared me into selling the new house, for which I am sooooo glad. Many thanks to the doomsayers on this board 🙂 You gave me the reinforcement I needed to drag my wife kicking & screaming out of a new “all granite countertops” house and back into an original 1950 cottage. Under the Lindbergh flightpath too 🙂

In reference to the house for sale, seems to me it’s not selling. Neither are the two around the corner on Hyacinth/Lotus. Months on the market, plenty of open houses, but no sales. I think the prices are falling, but you don’t see that reflected if the sale is not made. As the wife & I say, rolling our eyes, re the high asking prices around our neighborhood, “I hope they get it.” But they don’t.

Why don’t they lower their price? I don’t know for sure. But of my neighbors, the majority are long-time residents. And when I say longtime, for some that means 50+ years. Plenty of old folks, may not have to sell for money. If they’re offended by “low” offers, maybe they just sit tight?

But you know what really rips my heart out? That I did not connect the dots to short sell those companies holding securitized subprimes. I had all the facts in the hopper, and I even bailed out of properties based on my belief in a major downturn. Just didn’t put it together. Doh!

And lastly, kudos to Mr. Toscano for starting this site. I suspect it’s done a lot of people a lot of good. Shoulda said that years ago…

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