[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]Isn’t that pretty much what they’re already doing? Sounds to me like everyone from the President to Bernanke on down is insisting that nobody lose money on housing.

That’s why all us renters are being forced to keep renting (either that, or seriously overpay for a house)…so the deadbeats can live for free and pretend that their houses are worth what they were in 2005. In the meantime, we get to collect sub-1% interest on our savings. It’s all good.[/quote]

CA Renter, you said everything I have been thinking, seeing, feeling and have been pure angry about for the last 6-7 years. How can we call this the leading economy in the world after reading you summary of the situation? Once risk is removed from the equation many people tend to make very poor economic decisions.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=stockstradr]Ten years on and those residents will have demanded that it be converted to say a 10 ft tall concrete wall (maybe with barbed wire on top), and the subdivision will have one gated entrance with armed guards where your ID has to match to resident name list to gain entry.[/quote]

I much prefer the aesthetics of broken glass held down with mortar myself over barbed wire. It gives the area a much more environmental sustainable look with the re-purposing of the glass rather then the Super-Max look of the barbed wire. It so much more in this year during the second phase of our Mad-Maxing of America’s suburbs.

Do I have a future writing for HGTV in a post-apocalyptic America? Your thoughts stockstradr.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=stockstradr]Ten years on and those residents will have demanded that it be converted to say a 10 ft tall concrete wall (maybe with barbed wire on top), and the subdivision will have one gated entrance with armed guards where your ID has to match to resident name list to gain entry.[/quote]

I much prefer the aesthetics of broken glass held down with mortar myself over barbed wire. It gives the area a much more environmental sustainable look with the re-purposing of the glass rather then the Super-Max look of the barbed wire. It so much more in this year during the second phase of our Mad-Maxing of America’s suburbs.

Do I have a future writing for HGTV in a post-apocalyptic America? Your thoughts stockstradr.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=stockstradr]Ten years on and those residents will have demanded that it be converted to say a 10 ft tall concrete wall (maybe with barbed wire on top), and the subdivision will have one gated entrance with armed guards where your ID has to match to resident name list to gain entry.[/quote]

I much prefer the aesthetics of broken glass held down with mortar myself over barbed wire. It gives the area a much more environmental sustainable look with the re-purposing of the glass rather then the Super-Max look of the barbed wire. It so much more in this year during the second phase of our Mad-Maxing of America’s suburbs.

Do I have a future writing for HGTV in a post-apocalyptic America? Your thoughts stockstradr.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=stockstradr]Ten years on and those residents will have demanded that it be converted to say a 10 ft tall concrete wall (maybe with barbed wire on top), and the subdivision will have one gated entrance with armed guards where your ID has to match to resident name list to gain entry.[/quote]

I much prefer the aesthetics of broken glass held down with mortar myself over barbed wire. It gives the area a much more environmental sustainable look with the re-purposing of the glass rather then the Super-Max look of the barbed wire. It so much more in this year during the second phase of our Mad-Maxing of America’s suburbs.

Do I have a future writing for HGTV in a post-apocalyptic America? Your thoughts stockstradr.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=stockstradr]Ten years on and those residents will have demanded that it be converted to say a 10 ft tall concrete wall (maybe with barbed wire on top), and the subdivision will have one gated entrance with armed guards where your ID has to match to resident name list to gain entry.[/quote]

I much prefer the aesthetics of broken glass held down with mortar myself over barbed wire. It gives the area a much more environmental sustainable look with the re-purposing of the glass rather then the Super-Max look of the barbed wire. It so much more in this year during the second phase of our Mad-Maxing of America’s suburbs.

Do I have a future writing for HGTV in a post-apocalyptic America? Your thoughts stockstradr.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.

I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.

A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.[/quote]

Funny that I brought this up and found two articles today where the victim of a crime was treated by the “law enforcement” as a criminal.

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/terrified-1276387-lawyer-told.html

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/24339903/detail.html

I would like to get back on topic with the alarm subject but this has taken an interesting twist IMHO.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.

I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.

A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.[/quote]

Funny that I brought this up and found two articles today where the victim of a crime was treated by the “law enforcement” as a criminal.

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/terrified-1276387-lawyer-told.html

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/24339903/detail.html

I would like to get back on topic with the alarm subject but this has taken an interesting twist IMHO.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.

I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.

A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.[/quote]

Funny that I brought this up and found two articles today where the victim of a crime was treated by the “law enforcement” as a criminal.

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/terrified-1276387-lawyer-told.html

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/24339903/detail.html

I would like to get back on topic with the alarm subject but this has taken an interesting twist IMHO.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.

I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.

A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.[/quote]

Funny that I brought this up and found two articles today where the victim of a crime was treated by the “law enforcement” as a criminal.

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/terrified-1276387-lawyer-told.html

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/24339903/detail.html

I would like to get back on topic with the alarm subject but this has taken an interesting twist IMHO.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.

I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.

A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.[/quote]

Funny that I brought this up and found two articles today where the victim of a crime was treated by the “law enforcement” as a criminal.

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/terrified-1276387-lawyer-told.html

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/24339903/detail.html

I would like to get back on topic with the alarm subject but this has taken an interesting twist IMHO.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]

There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.

A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]

There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.

A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]

There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.

A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.

[Jim Jones]

[quote=CA renter]

Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]

There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.

A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.

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