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Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Felix: I think what gets lost in all this smoke is the intent of the Founding Fathers and the dynamic, “living document” nature of the Constitution.
One of Clinton’s little acolytes, Lani Guinier, riffed on the “Tyranny of the Majority” criticism in a book carrying the same title and you now catch that same stench emanating from the Left under Obama.
The Founding Fathers were as anti-authority, anti-monarchy, and anti-tax/anti-confiscation as it got. That thread runs through nearly all of the contemporaneous writings, as well as documents such as the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Am I opposed to radicals and reactionaries? Nope, far from it. What I am opposed to are those individuals that favor confiscatory and redistributive government, under the rubric of a “social” society.
The Left is now reduced to pathetically calling those Americans with the temerity to protest, “racists” and “extremists” and “un-Americans”. You have useful idiots like former President Carter and Keith Olbermann and Joe Klein prevaricating about racism and bigotry, simply because these buffoons (Olbermann), anti-Semites (Carter) and elitists (Klein) are stunned that average Americans are now rousing themselves from their debt-addled stupor and acting.
All of this, however, does not constitute legitimacy of the GOP. They are as complicit as the Left in this fucking mess and their current answers are really no better.
What is needed is a return to core American values, these being self-reliance, self-autonomy, frugality, humility and the civil use of free expression.[/quote]
Another great post.
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Felix: I think what gets lost in all this smoke is the intent of the Founding Fathers and the dynamic, “living document” nature of the Constitution.
One of Clinton’s little acolytes, Lani Guinier, riffed on the “Tyranny of the Majority” criticism in a book carrying the same title and you now catch that same stench emanating from the Left under Obama.
The Founding Fathers were as anti-authority, anti-monarchy, and anti-tax/anti-confiscation as it got. That thread runs through nearly all of the contemporaneous writings, as well as documents such as the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Am I opposed to radicals and reactionaries? Nope, far from it. What I am opposed to are those individuals that favor confiscatory and redistributive government, under the rubric of a “social” society.
The Left is now reduced to pathetically calling those Americans with the temerity to protest, “racists” and “extremists” and “un-Americans”. You have useful idiots like former President Carter and Keith Olbermann and Joe Klein prevaricating about racism and bigotry, simply because these buffoons (Olbermann), anti-Semites (Carter) and elitists (Klein) are stunned that average Americans are now rousing themselves from their debt-addled stupor and acting.
All of this, however, does not constitute legitimacy of the GOP. They are as complicit as the Left in this fucking mess and their current answers are really no better.
What is needed is a return to core American values, these being self-reliance, self-autonomy, frugality, humility and the civil use of free expression.[/quote]
Another great post.
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Felix: I think what gets lost in all this smoke is the intent of the Founding Fathers and the dynamic, “living document” nature of the Constitution.
One of Clinton’s little acolytes, Lani Guinier, riffed on the “Tyranny of the Majority” criticism in a book carrying the same title and you now catch that same stench emanating from the Left under Obama.
The Founding Fathers were as anti-authority, anti-monarchy, and anti-tax/anti-confiscation as it got. That thread runs through nearly all of the contemporaneous writings, as well as documents such as the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Am I opposed to radicals and reactionaries? Nope, far from it. What I am opposed to are those individuals that favor confiscatory and redistributive government, under the rubric of a “social” society.
The Left is now reduced to pathetically calling those Americans with the temerity to protest, “racists” and “extremists” and “un-Americans”. You have useful idiots like former President Carter and Keith Olbermann and Joe Klein prevaricating about racism and bigotry, simply because these buffoons (Olbermann), anti-Semites (Carter) and elitists (Klein) are stunned that average Americans are now rousing themselves from their debt-addled stupor and acting.
All of this, however, does not constitute legitimacy of the GOP. They are as complicit as the Left in this fucking mess and their current answers are really no better.
What is needed is a return to core American values, these being self-reliance, self-autonomy, frugality, humility and the civil use of free expression.[/quote]
Another great post.
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Felix: I think what gets lost in all this smoke is the intent of the Founding Fathers and the dynamic, “living document” nature of the Constitution.
One of Clinton’s little acolytes, Lani Guinier, riffed on the “Tyranny of the Majority” criticism in a book carrying the same title and you now catch that same stench emanating from the Left under Obama.
The Founding Fathers were as anti-authority, anti-monarchy, and anti-tax/anti-confiscation as it got. That thread runs through nearly all of the contemporaneous writings, as well as documents such as the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Am I opposed to radicals and reactionaries? Nope, far from it. What I am opposed to are those individuals that favor confiscatory and redistributive government, under the rubric of a “social” society.
The Left is now reduced to pathetically calling those Americans with the temerity to protest, “racists” and “extremists” and “un-Americans”. You have useful idiots like former President Carter and Keith Olbermann and Joe Klein prevaricating about racism and bigotry, simply because these buffoons (Olbermann), anti-Semites (Carter) and elitists (Klein) are stunned that average Americans are now rousing themselves from their debt-addled stupor and acting.
All of this, however, does not constitute legitimacy of the GOP. They are as complicit as the Left in this fucking mess and their current answers are really no better.
What is needed is a return to core American values, these being self-reliance, self-autonomy, frugality, humility and the civil use of free expression.[/quote]
Another great post.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Many in the media ignored Obama’s past and his views because of their blind hate of our previous president.[/quote]I mean, can you really blame the media for running away from our previous president…?
I firmly believe Obama was elected ONLY because of Bush. If Bush didn’t exist, USA wouldn’t have selected a man sharing Arican/Black/African-American heritage as the POTUS. Not for another 2 or 3 decades.[/quote]
If you believe as I do that the role of the 4th estate is to inform folks, yes, I do blame the media for not informing folks as best they could about someone running for president. The obligation to inform and present unbiased info should have nothing to do with how one feels about either party or administration.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Many in the media ignored Obama’s past and his views because of their blind hate of our previous president.[/quote]I mean, can you really blame the media for running away from our previous president…?
I firmly believe Obama was elected ONLY because of Bush. If Bush didn’t exist, USA wouldn’t have selected a man sharing Arican/Black/African-American heritage as the POTUS. Not for another 2 or 3 decades.[/quote]
If you believe as I do that the role of the 4th estate is to inform folks, yes, I do blame the media for not informing folks as best they could about someone running for president. The obligation to inform and present unbiased info should have nothing to do with how one feels about either party or administration.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Many in the media ignored Obama’s past and his views because of their blind hate of our previous president.[/quote]I mean, can you really blame the media for running away from our previous president…?
I firmly believe Obama was elected ONLY because of Bush. If Bush didn’t exist, USA wouldn’t have selected a man sharing Arican/Black/African-American heritage as the POTUS. Not for another 2 or 3 decades.[/quote]
If you believe as I do that the role of the 4th estate is to inform folks, yes, I do blame the media for not informing folks as best they could about someone running for president. The obligation to inform and present unbiased info should have nothing to do with how one feels about either party or administration.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Many in the media ignored Obama’s past and his views because of their blind hate of our previous president.[/quote]I mean, can you really blame the media for running away from our previous president…?
I firmly believe Obama was elected ONLY because of Bush. If Bush didn’t exist, USA wouldn’t have selected a man sharing Arican/Black/African-American heritage as the POTUS. Not for another 2 or 3 decades.[/quote]
If you believe as I do that the role of the 4th estate is to inform folks, yes, I do blame the media for not informing folks as best they could about someone running for president. The obligation to inform and present unbiased info should have nothing to do with how one feels about either party or administration.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Many in the media ignored Obama’s past and his views because of their blind hate of our previous president.[/quote]I mean, can you really blame the media for running away from our previous president…?
I firmly believe Obama was elected ONLY because of Bush. If Bush didn’t exist, USA wouldn’t have selected a man sharing Arican/Black/African-American heritage as the POTUS. Not for another 2 or 3 decades.[/quote]
If you believe as I do that the role of the 4th estate is to inform folks, yes, I do blame the media for not informing folks as best they could about someone running for president. The obligation to inform and present unbiased info should have nothing to do with how one feels about either party or administration.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.
Participant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.
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