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November 24, 2009 at 10:03 PM #487293November 24, 2009 at 10:11 PM #486435DWCAPParticipant
My vote is even, +/- 1%. The fear is better understood, but overall balance sheets are worse as noticed in increasing bankruptcies, credit is tighter, and unemployment is worse.
We already suffered a big drop last year, so this is the second year of the recession. The comparison is much easier. Things wont be good, just not falling like last year.
November 24, 2009 at 10:11 PM #486601DWCAPParticipantMy vote is even, +/- 1%. The fear is better understood, but overall balance sheets are worse as noticed in increasing bankruptcies, credit is tighter, and unemployment is worse.
We already suffered a big drop last year, so this is the second year of the recession. The comparison is much easier. Things wont be good, just not falling like last year.
November 24, 2009 at 10:11 PM #486979DWCAPParticipantMy vote is even, +/- 1%. The fear is better understood, but overall balance sheets are worse as noticed in increasing bankruptcies, credit is tighter, and unemployment is worse.
We already suffered a big drop last year, so this is the second year of the recession. The comparison is much easier. Things wont be good, just not falling like last year.
November 24, 2009 at 10:11 PM #487066DWCAPParticipantMy vote is even, +/- 1%. The fear is better understood, but overall balance sheets are worse as noticed in increasing bankruptcies, credit is tighter, and unemployment is worse.
We already suffered a big drop last year, so this is the second year of the recession. The comparison is much easier. Things wont be good, just not falling like last year.
November 24, 2009 at 10:11 PM #487298DWCAPParticipantMy vote is even, +/- 1%. The fear is better understood, but overall balance sheets are worse as noticed in increasing bankruptcies, credit is tighter, and unemployment is worse.
We already suffered a big drop last year, so this is the second year of the recession. The comparison is much easier. Things wont be good, just not falling like last year.
November 24, 2009 at 10:19 PM #486440Effective DemandParticipantIf retail got its big inventory correction over with the last 18 months (as many say they have) then I would expect fewer “deals” and motivated sellers. Buyers will be hunting for deals and be very price sensitive but many retailers will have contracted sufficiently where they won’t be offering what the buyers are looking for. I think this is a possible scenario for Xmas season.
Rosenberg said something similiar as well:
“And, a companion survey by the NPD group shows that over 60% of shoppers only intend to buy marked-down items, which only complicates the sales outlook that much more because merchants believed they have adjusted their inventory levels sufficiently to avoid another round of price cutting.”The combination of the stock market rebound, less shaky financial system than we were seeing last December and many people not paying their mortgage (for most, their biggest expense) might be enough to goose sales YoY. But I tend to believe the inventory correction story combined with credit card cutting/contraction along with the general economy will win out. Though as many will point out history is littered with piles of people predicting the death of the American consumer. The ability for people to spend in the face of reality is really a defining characteristic of the american consumer.
November 24, 2009 at 10:19 PM #486606Effective DemandParticipantIf retail got its big inventory correction over with the last 18 months (as many say they have) then I would expect fewer “deals” and motivated sellers. Buyers will be hunting for deals and be very price sensitive but many retailers will have contracted sufficiently where they won’t be offering what the buyers are looking for. I think this is a possible scenario for Xmas season.
Rosenberg said something similiar as well:
“And, a companion survey by the NPD group shows that over 60% of shoppers only intend to buy marked-down items, which only complicates the sales outlook that much more because merchants believed they have adjusted their inventory levels sufficiently to avoid another round of price cutting.”The combination of the stock market rebound, less shaky financial system than we were seeing last December and many people not paying their mortgage (for most, their biggest expense) might be enough to goose sales YoY. But I tend to believe the inventory correction story combined with credit card cutting/contraction along with the general economy will win out. Though as many will point out history is littered with piles of people predicting the death of the American consumer. The ability for people to spend in the face of reality is really a defining characteristic of the american consumer.
November 24, 2009 at 10:19 PM #486984Effective DemandParticipantIf retail got its big inventory correction over with the last 18 months (as many say they have) then I would expect fewer “deals” and motivated sellers. Buyers will be hunting for deals and be very price sensitive but many retailers will have contracted sufficiently where they won’t be offering what the buyers are looking for. I think this is a possible scenario for Xmas season.
Rosenberg said something similiar as well:
“And, a companion survey by the NPD group shows that over 60% of shoppers only intend to buy marked-down items, which only complicates the sales outlook that much more because merchants believed they have adjusted their inventory levels sufficiently to avoid another round of price cutting.”The combination of the stock market rebound, less shaky financial system than we were seeing last December and many people not paying their mortgage (for most, their biggest expense) might be enough to goose sales YoY. But I tend to believe the inventory correction story combined with credit card cutting/contraction along with the general economy will win out. Though as many will point out history is littered with piles of people predicting the death of the American consumer. The ability for people to spend in the face of reality is really a defining characteristic of the american consumer.
November 24, 2009 at 10:19 PM #487071Effective DemandParticipantIf retail got its big inventory correction over with the last 18 months (as many say they have) then I would expect fewer “deals” and motivated sellers. Buyers will be hunting for deals and be very price sensitive but many retailers will have contracted sufficiently where they won’t be offering what the buyers are looking for. I think this is a possible scenario for Xmas season.
Rosenberg said something similiar as well:
“And, a companion survey by the NPD group shows that over 60% of shoppers only intend to buy marked-down items, which only complicates the sales outlook that much more because merchants believed they have adjusted their inventory levels sufficiently to avoid another round of price cutting.”The combination of the stock market rebound, less shaky financial system than we were seeing last December and many people not paying their mortgage (for most, their biggest expense) might be enough to goose sales YoY. But I tend to believe the inventory correction story combined with credit card cutting/contraction along with the general economy will win out. Though as many will point out history is littered with piles of people predicting the death of the American consumer. The ability for people to spend in the face of reality is really a defining characteristic of the american consumer.
November 24, 2009 at 10:19 PM #487303Effective DemandParticipantIf retail got its big inventory correction over with the last 18 months (as many say they have) then I would expect fewer “deals” and motivated sellers. Buyers will be hunting for deals and be very price sensitive but many retailers will have contracted sufficiently where they won’t be offering what the buyers are looking for. I think this is a possible scenario for Xmas season.
Rosenberg said something similiar as well:
“And, a companion survey by the NPD group shows that over 60% of shoppers only intend to buy marked-down items, which only complicates the sales outlook that much more because merchants believed they have adjusted their inventory levels sufficiently to avoid another round of price cutting.”The combination of the stock market rebound, less shaky financial system than we were seeing last December and many people not paying their mortgage (for most, their biggest expense) might be enough to goose sales YoY. But I tend to believe the inventory correction story combined with credit card cutting/contraction along with the general economy will win out. Though as many will point out history is littered with piles of people predicting the death of the American consumer. The ability for people to spend in the face of reality is really a defining characteristic of the american consumer.
November 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM #486449jParticipantI know that it can’t be a great retail season, because the freight companies have laid off so many workers. I know one lady that said her husband would be laid off for 3 weeks before it actually happened. Apparently his company was laying off 12-20 workers in San Diego every Friday in October and November. If freight is not moving, stores do not plan on a good retail season.
November 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM #486616jParticipantI know that it can’t be a great retail season, because the freight companies have laid off so many workers. I know one lady that said her husband would be laid off for 3 weeks before it actually happened. Apparently his company was laying off 12-20 workers in San Diego every Friday in October and November. If freight is not moving, stores do not plan on a good retail season.
November 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM #486994jParticipantI know that it can’t be a great retail season, because the freight companies have laid off so many workers. I know one lady that said her husband would be laid off for 3 weeks before it actually happened. Apparently his company was laying off 12-20 workers in San Diego every Friday in October and November. If freight is not moving, stores do not plan on a good retail season.
November 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM #487081jParticipantI know that it can’t be a great retail season, because the freight companies have laid off so many workers. I know one lady that said her husband would be laid off for 3 weeks before it actually happened. Apparently his company was laying off 12-20 workers in San Diego every Friday in October and November. If freight is not moving, stores do not plan on a good retail season.
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