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November 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM #301643November 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM #301211
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantCardiff: I’m not blaming Palin solely for the decline of GOP fortunes, but I am using her as the latest and greatest manifestation of our woes.
You mention Gingrich and a lot of folks don’t remember that he was the architect of Contract with America, which was a damn good program and he did an excellent job of articulating the core conservative values that that program represented.
As Lord Acton said: “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Well, we’ve seen that writ large in the last eight years and the last vestiges of Goldwater Republicanism have been swept away by a profligacy and stupidity unparalleled in our party’s history. Socialism came to America courtesy of the GOP – the very party that was supposedly there to fight it to the death.
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
If we’re being honest, the Dems haven’t had an original idea since LBJ’s Great Society program and the leftist junta that drives that engine is going to swamp this country with feel good PC claptrap for the next four (or, God forbid, eight) years. Just enough time for us to get our shit together and put us back on the true path.
November 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM #301570ParticipantCardiff: I’m not blaming Palin solely for the decline of GOP fortunes, but I am using her as the latest and greatest manifestation of our woes.
You mention Gingrich and a lot of folks don’t remember that he was the architect of Contract with America, which was a damn good program and he did an excellent job of articulating the core conservative values that that program represented.
As Lord Acton said: “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Well, we’ve seen that writ large in the last eight years and the last vestiges of Goldwater Republicanism have been swept away by a profligacy and stupidity unparalleled in our party’s history. Socialism came to America courtesy of the GOP – the very party that was supposedly there to fight it to the death.
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
If we’re being honest, the Dems haven’t had an original idea since LBJ’s Great Society program and the leftist junta that drives that engine is going to swamp this country with feel good PC claptrap for the next four (or, God forbid, eight) years. Just enough time for us to get our shit together and put us back on the true path.
November 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM #301577ParticipantCardiff: I’m not blaming Palin solely for the decline of GOP fortunes, but I am using her as the latest and greatest manifestation of our woes.
You mention Gingrich and a lot of folks don’t remember that he was the architect of Contract with America, which was a damn good program and he did an excellent job of articulating the core conservative values that that program represented.
As Lord Acton said: “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Well, we’ve seen that writ large in the last eight years and the last vestiges of Goldwater Republicanism have been swept away by a profligacy and stupidity unparalleled in our party’s history. Socialism came to America courtesy of the GOP – the very party that was supposedly there to fight it to the death.
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
If we’re being honest, the Dems haven’t had an original idea since LBJ’s Great Society program and the leftist junta that drives that engine is going to swamp this country with feel good PC claptrap for the next four (or, God forbid, eight) years. Just enough time for us to get our shit together and put us back on the true path.
November 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM #301594ParticipantCardiff: I’m not blaming Palin solely for the decline of GOP fortunes, but I am using her as the latest and greatest manifestation of our woes.
You mention Gingrich and a lot of folks don’t remember that he was the architect of Contract with America, which was a damn good program and he did an excellent job of articulating the core conservative values that that program represented.
As Lord Acton said: “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Well, we’ve seen that writ large in the last eight years and the last vestiges of Goldwater Republicanism have been swept away by a profligacy and stupidity unparalleled in our party’s history. Socialism came to America courtesy of the GOP – the very party that was supposedly there to fight it to the death.
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
If we’re being honest, the Dems haven’t had an original idea since LBJ’s Great Society program and the leftist junta that drives that engine is going to swamp this country with feel good PC claptrap for the next four (or, God forbid, eight) years. Just enough time for us to get our shit together and put us back on the true path.
November 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM #301648ParticipantCardiff: I’m not blaming Palin solely for the decline of GOP fortunes, but I am using her as the latest and greatest manifestation of our woes.
You mention Gingrich and a lot of folks don’t remember that he was the architect of Contract with America, which was a damn good program and he did an excellent job of articulating the core conservative values that that program represented.
As Lord Acton said: “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Well, we’ve seen that writ large in the last eight years and the last vestiges of Goldwater Republicanism have been swept away by a profligacy and stupidity unparalleled in our party’s history. Socialism came to America courtesy of the GOP – the very party that was supposedly there to fight it to the death.
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
If we’re being honest, the Dems haven’t had an original idea since LBJ’s Great Society program and the leftist junta that drives that engine is going to swamp this country with feel good PC claptrap for the next four (or, God forbid, eight) years. Just enough time for us to get our shit together and put us back on the true path.
November 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM #301281Anonymous
Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
[/quote]Pray tell, what is that?
“And I can see Russia from my house…”
November 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM #301640Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
[/quote]Pray tell, what is that?
“And I can see Russia from my house…”
November 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM #301646Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
[/quote]Pray tell, what is that?
“And I can see Russia from my house…”
November 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM #301664Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
[/quote]Pray tell, what is that?
“And I can see Russia from my house…”
November 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM #301718Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
We need to spend some time in the wilderness and rediscover those things that made the GOP the standard bearer of this country.
[/quote]Pray tell, what is that?
“And I can see Russia from my house…”
November 7, 2008 at 10:59 PM #301286DWCAP
Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=DWCAP][quote=Dukehorn]UCGal,
You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.[/quote]Ante that the truth.
[/quote]
All these generalizations are rubbish. You know what they say when you make assumptions….
I studied biology in college before I changed to chemistry. I also have a graduate degree in engineering. Both schools were UC’s. I put myself through school both times.
Frankly, I find the argument for irreducible complexity at least interesting in many cases, if not compelling.
Oh, and I’m a conservative and while I was raised catholic, I haven’t been to church in 20+ years and consider myself more agnostic than anything else.
[/quote]
Good. You find issues compelling, and have a fundametal understanding of them. Most of the people who support the ideas of creationism or even irreducable complexity have no idea about the theory of evolution and natural selection. They have some half assed idea that one day a monkey gave birth to a human baby and dont buy it. I constantly have to correct a segment of my social group who do not understand this most basic biological theory. That is where my statement comes from. I really enjoy debating the topic with people willing to hold an actual debate. Unfornatually I find that the extream majority of people who support these ideas are people who have little understanding of what they are talking about and no willingness to explore their beliefs.
November 7, 2008 at 10:59 PM #301645Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=DWCAP][quote=Dukehorn]UCGal,
You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.[/quote]Ante that the truth.
[/quote]
All these generalizations are rubbish. You know what they say when you make assumptions….
I studied biology in college before I changed to chemistry. I also have a graduate degree in engineering. Both schools were UC’s. I put myself through school both times.
Frankly, I find the argument for irreducible complexity at least interesting in many cases, if not compelling.
Oh, and I’m a conservative and while I was raised catholic, I haven’t been to church in 20+ years and consider myself more agnostic than anything else.
[/quote]
Good. You find issues compelling, and have a fundametal understanding of them. Most of the people who support the ideas of creationism or even irreducable complexity have no idea about the theory of evolution and natural selection. They have some half assed idea that one day a monkey gave birth to a human baby and dont buy it. I constantly have to correct a segment of my social group who do not understand this most basic biological theory. That is where my statement comes from. I really enjoy debating the topic with people willing to hold an actual debate. Unfornatually I find that the extream majority of people who support these ideas are people who have little understanding of what they are talking about and no willingness to explore their beliefs.
November 7, 2008 at 10:59 PM #301651Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=DWCAP][quote=Dukehorn]UCGal,
You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.[/quote]Ante that the truth.
[/quote]
All these generalizations are rubbish. You know what they say when you make assumptions….
I studied biology in college before I changed to chemistry. I also have a graduate degree in engineering. Both schools were UC’s. I put myself through school both times.
Frankly, I find the argument for irreducible complexity at least interesting in many cases, if not compelling.
Oh, and I’m a conservative and while I was raised catholic, I haven’t been to church in 20+ years and consider myself more agnostic than anything else.
[/quote]
Good. You find issues compelling, and have a fundametal understanding of them. Most of the people who support the ideas of creationism or even irreducable complexity have no idea about the theory of evolution and natural selection. They have some half assed idea that one day a monkey gave birth to a human baby and dont buy it. I constantly have to correct a segment of my social group who do not understand this most basic biological theory. That is where my statement comes from. I really enjoy debating the topic with people willing to hold an actual debate. Unfornatually I find that the extream majority of people who support these ideas are people who have little understanding of what they are talking about and no willingness to explore their beliefs.
November 7, 2008 at 10:59 PM #301669Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=DWCAP][quote=Dukehorn]UCGal,
You don’t find folks in the life sciences that will accept intelligent design.[/quote]Ante that the truth.
[/quote]
All these generalizations are rubbish. You know what they say when you make assumptions….
I studied biology in college before I changed to chemistry. I also have a graduate degree in engineering. Both schools were UC’s. I put myself through school both times.
Frankly, I find the argument for irreducible complexity at least interesting in many cases, if not compelling.
Oh, and I’m a conservative and while I was raised catholic, I haven’t been to church in 20+ years and consider myself more agnostic than anything else.
[/quote]
Good. You find issues compelling, and have a fundametal understanding of them. Most of the people who support the ideas of creationism or even irreducable complexity have no idea about the theory of evolution and natural selection. They have some half assed idea that one day a monkey gave birth to a human baby and dont buy it. I constantly have to correct a segment of my social group who do not understand this most basic biological theory. That is where my statement comes from. I really enjoy debating the topic with people willing to hold an actual debate. Unfornatually I find that the extream majority of people who support these ideas are people who have little understanding of what they are talking about and no willingness to explore their beliefs.
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