WAY Off Topic: iPhones

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale]
I’ve had an iphone 3G for almost 2 years. I’ve been very happy with it. However, the 4.0 OS upgrade completely destroyed my phone. It’s slow as crap now doing ANYTHING and there is no easy way to downgrade to the old OS. Thanks for sucking Apple and actually testing this out.[/quote]

meadandale, you were right!

Actually, in the smart phone business, Apple is not very different from the “evil” Microsoft in the PC market. Products full of bugs.

But they are the standard. What can we do?

On Thursday, the Wall Street Journal reported that Apple was investigating the sluggish performance of iOS 4 on the iPhone 3G. While Apple is beginning an investigation, a reader over at Neowin was hands on with an iPhone and may have stumbled upon a quick fix. The problem is apparently remedied by turning off all the spotlight search options within Settings->General->Home Button->Spotlight Search. Though this may be a temporary band-aid, it may be enough to hold you over until Apple determines a root cause and issues a fix. If anyone gives it a try, let us know your results in the comments.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/29/wsj-apple-investigating-ios-4-on-iphone-3g-complaints/

[meadandale]

I bit the bullet a few weeks ago and downgraded to 3.1.3. Phone works great again–it’s like having a new phone.

They are probably gonna have to provide official support for downgrading. However, itunes is gonna cause them some grief. Apparently itunes is quick to remove old upgrade files and backups. I had to keep copying the 3.1.3 image into the itunes directory because everytime I’d restart itunes it would delete it. It also kept no copies of my old 3.x backups…only the last one it did after I upgraded to 4.0..which meant that I lost all the preferences for all my apps.

[meadandale]

I bit the bullet a few weeks ago and downgraded to 3.1.3. Phone works great again–it’s like having a new phone.

They are probably gonna have to provide official support for downgrading. However, itunes is gonna cause them some grief. Apparently itunes is quick to remove old upgrade files and backups. I had to keep copying the 3.1.3 image into the itunes directory because everytime I’d restart itunes it would delete it. It also kept no copies of my old 3.x backups…only the last one it did after I upgraded to 4.0..which meant that I lost all the preferences for all my apps.

[meadandale]

I bit the bullet a few weeks ago and downgraded to 3.1.3. Phone works great again–it’s like having a new phone.

They are probably gonna have to provide official support for downgrading. However, itunes is gonna cause them some grief. Apparently itunes is quick to remove old upgrade files and backups. I had to keep copying the 3.1.3 image into the itunes directory because everytime I’d restart itunes it would delete it. It also kept no copies of my old 3.x backups…only the last one it did after I upgraded to 4.0..which meant that I lost all the preferences for all my apps.

[meadandale]

I bit the bullet a few weeks ago and downgraded to 3.1.3. Phone works great again–it’s like having a new phone.

They are probably gonna have to provide official support for downgrading. However, itunes is gonna cause them some grief. Apparently itunes is quick to remove old upgrade files and backups. I had to keep copying the 3.1.3 image into the itunes directory because everytime I’d restart itunes it would delete it. It also kept no copies of my old 3.x backups…only the last one it did after I upgraded to 4.0..which meant that I lost all the preferences for all my apps.

[meadandale]

I bit the bullet a few weeks ago and downgraded to 3.1.3. Phone works great again–it’s like having a new phone.

They are probably gonna have to provide official support for downgrading. However, itunes is gonna cause them some grief. Apparently itunes is quick to remove old upgrade files and backups. I had to keep copying the 3.1.3 image into the itunes directory because everytime I’d restart itunes it would delete it. It also kept no copies of my old 3.x backups…only the last one it did after I upgraded to 4.0..which meant that I lost all the preferences for all my apps.

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Actually, in the smart phone business, Apple is not very different from the “evil” Microsoft in the PC market. Products full of bugs.

But they are the standard. What can we do?
[/quote]

That’s why I run Ubuntu and not Windows…and they aren’t gonna be the ‘standard’ for long. Android phones are catching up quickly in sales.

iphones and Apple will always have the fan boy factor but I don’t think they are going to hold their place at the top of the smart phone market after Antenna-Gate and the issues with the 4.0 upgrade on older phones. There are alternatives now that there really weren’t a few years ago.

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Actually, in the smart phone business, Apple is not very different from the “evil” Microsoft in the PC market. Products full of bugs.

But they are the standard. What can we do?
[/quote]

That’s why I run Ubuntu and not Windows…and they aren’t gonna be the ‘standard’ for long. Android phones are catching up quickly in sales.

iphones and Apple will always have the fan boy factor but I don’t think they are going to hold their place at the top of the smart phone market after Antenna-Gate and the issues with the 4.0 upgrade on older phones. There are alternatives now that there really weren’t a few years ago.

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Actually, in the smart phone business, Apple is not very different from the “evil” Microsoft in the PC market. Products full of bugs.

But they are the standard. What can we do?
[/quote]

That’s why I run Ubuntu and not Windows…and they aren’t gonna be the ‘standard’ for long. Android phones are catching up quickly in sales.

iphones and Apple will always have the fan boy factor but I don’t think they are going to hold their place at the top of the smart phone market after Antenna-Gate and the issues with the 4.0 upgrade on older phones. There are alternatives now that there really weren’t a few years ago.

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Actually, in the smart phone business, Apple is not very different from the “evil” Microsoft in the PC market. Products full of bugs.

But they are the standard. What can we do?
[/quote]

That’s why I run Ubuntu and not Windows…and they aren’t gonna be the ‘standard’ for long. Android phones are catching up quickly in sales.

iphones and Apple will always have the fan boy factor but I don’t think they are going to hold their place at the top of the smart phone market after Antenna-Gate and the issues with the 4.0 upgrade on older phones. There are alternatives now that there really weren’t a few years ago.

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Actually, in the smart phone business, Apple is not very different from the “evil” Microsoft in the PC market. Products full of bugs.

But they are the standard. What can we do?
[/quote]

That’s why I run Ubuntu and not Windows…and they aren’t gonna be the ‘standard’ for long. Android phones are catching up quickly in sales.

iphones and Apple will always have the fan boy factor but I don’t think they are going to hold their place at the top of the smart phone market after Antenna-Gate and the issues with the 4.0 upgrade on older phones. There are alternatives now that there really weren’t a few years ago.

[Hatfield]

I’m on the cusp of biting the bullet and buying a Motorola Droid X. I have been out-of-contract with Verizon for about 5 years now. I’m on an ancient but rockin’ calling plan, plus I’m still getting a corporate discount that I no longer qualify for. But I also use a Mac, and obviously it’s pretty hard to beat the intergration of an iPhone with a Mac. A few years ago my VX-8100 died so I bought a VX-8700 off eBay and did an ESN swap to stay out of contract.

I would love to get an iPhone but don’t want to switch to AT&T. And I’ve been hearing Verizon iPhone rumors for years now but still nothing is on the horizon.

I finally went into a Verizon store to check out the Droid X. I have to say it looks pretty great, and here’s what I learned:

* I can still keep my rockin’ calling plan! I would just need to re-up my contract if I buy a subsidized phone.

* The data plan for the Droid is $29/month, but I could drop VCAST for which I’m already paying $15/month

* I can do mobile broadband shared via WiFi for another $20/month. The service is capped at 2 GB/mo. Currently I have a MiFi card capped at 5 GB/mo. I’m paying another $59/mo for that, but I’ve never come anywhere near the 5 GB cap.

The big stickler for me is app integration. Apparently on the Android platform, iCal and Address Book are synced through Google, which kinda creeps me out for reasons that are hard to articulate. But it’s been kind of a sticking point for me. But I just learned that Missing Sync has a direct Android <-> Mac gateway sync app for $30. That’s probably gonna be the thing that makes me cave in.

[Hatfield]

I’m on the cusp of biting the bullet and buying a Motorola Droid X. I have been out-of-contract with Verizon for about 5 years now. I’m on an ancient but rockin’ calling plan, plus I’m still getting a corporate discount that I no longer qualify for. But I also use a Mac, and obviously it’s pretty hard to beat the intergration of an iPhone with a Mac. A few years ago my VX-8100 died so I bought a VX-8700 off eBay and did an ESN swap to stay out of contract.

I would love to get an iPhone but don’t want to switch to AT&T. And I’ve been hearing Verizon iPhone rumors for years now but still nothing is on the horizon.

I finally went into a Verizon store to check out the Droid X. I have to say it looks pretty great, and here’s what I learned:

* I can still keep my rockin’ calling plan! I would just need to re-up my contract if I buy a subsidized phone.

* The data plan for the Droid is $29/month, but I could drop VCAST for which I’m already paying $15/month

* I can do mobile broadband shared via WiFi for another $20/month. The service is capped at 2 GB/mo. Currently I have a MiFi card capped at 5 GB/mo. I’m paying another $59/mo for that, but I’ve never come anywhere near the 5 GB cap.

The big stickler for me is app integration. Apparently on the Android platform, iCal and Address Book are synced through Google, which kinda creeps me out for reasons that are hard to articulate. But it’s been kind of a sticking point for me. But I just learned that Missing Sync has a direct Android <-> Mac gateway sync app for $30. That’s probably gonna be the thing that makes me cave in.

[Hatfield]

I’m on the cusp of biting the bullet and buying a Motorola Droid X. I have been out-of-contract with Verizon for about 5 years now. I’m on an ancient but rockin’ calling plan, plus I’m still getting a corporate discount that I no longer qualify for. But I also use a Mac, and obviously it’s pretty hard to beat the intergration of an iPhone with a Mac. A few years ago my VX-8100 died so I bought a VX-8700 off eBay and did an ESN swap to stay out of contract.

I would love to get an iPhone but don’t want to switch to AT&T. And I’ve been hearing Verizon iPhone rumors for years now but still nothing is on the horizon.

I finally went into a Verizon store to check out the Droid X. I have to say it looks pretty great, and here’s what I learned:

* I can still keep my rockin’ calling plan! I would just need to re-up my contract if I buy a subsidized phone.

* The data plan for the Droid is $29/month, but I could drop VCAST for which I’m already paying $15/month

* I can do mobile broadband shared via WiFi for another $20/month. The service is capped at 2 GB/mo. Currently I have a MiFi card capped at 5 GB/mo. I’m paying another $59/mo for that, but I’ve never come anywhere near the 5 GB cap.

The big stickler for me is app integration. Apparently on the Android platform, iCal and Address Book are synced through Google, which kinda creeps me out for reasons that are hard to articulate. But it’s been kind of a sticking point for me. But I just learned that Missing Sync has a direct Android <-> Mac gateway sync app for $30. That’s probably gonna be the thing that makes me cave in.

[Hatfield]

I’m on the cusp of biting the bullet and buying a Motorola Droid X. I have been out-of-contract with Verizon for about 5 years now. I’m on an ancient but rockin’ calling plan, plus I’m still getting a corporate discount that I no longer qualify for. But I also use a Mac, and obviously it’s pretty hard to beat the intergration of an iPhone with a Mac. A few years ago my VX-8100 died so I bought a VX-8700 off eBay and did an ESN swap to stay out of contract.

I would love to get an iPhone but don’t want to switch to AT&T. And I’ve been hearing Verizon iPhone rumors for years now but still nothing is on the horizon.

I finally went into a Verizon store to check out the Droid X. I have to say it looks pretty great, and here’s what I learned:

* I can still keep my rockin’ calling plan! I would just need to re-up my contract if I buy a subsidized phone.

* The data plan for the Droid is $29/month, but I could drop VCAST for which I’m already paying $15/month

* I can do mobile broadband shared via WiFi for another $20/month. The service is capped at 2 GB/mo. Currently I have a MiFi card capped at 5 GB/mo. I’m paying another $59/mo for that, but I’ve never come anywhere near the 5 GB cap.

The big stickler for me is app integration. Apparently on the Android platform, iCal and Address Book are synced through Google, which kinda creeps me out for reasons that are hard to articulate. But it’s been kind of a sticking point for me. But I just learned that Missing Sync has a direct Android <-> Mac gateway sync app for $30. That’s probably gonna be the thing that makes me cave in.

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