TAX TAX TAX and more TAX

[gandalf]

You’re technically correct, sdduuuuuuuude…

Determination of progressive/regressive isn’t constrained to levying of taxes, and includes how such dollars are spent.

But the tax code portion, the determination of liability, percentages of income/wealth — it’s a huge component of what goes into the calculation of progressive/regressive.

Overall, I would like to see less ‘policy’ implemented through tax law — percentages, deductions, incentives, etc. The original policy objectives are often subverted, unintended consequences.

As for NO tax….

How would you pay for government then? Are there things the government does that are worthwhile?

National defense?

Roads and highways?

Clean water?

Public school system?

Police and fire?

[an]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SD Realtor]Penalizing someone for busting ass and working hard makes no sense to me.[/quote]

Hard work is very relative.

Does a coal miner work harder or does a Realtor? How about an executive who works hard in the boardroom, on the golf course, at dinner parties and on the private jet, etc..?

Our society doesn’t compensate hard work per se, but compensation is based on supply and demand, connections and being at the right place at the right time.

If one make more money because society makes it possible for one to earn that money, then one should pay more because one benefits more.[/quote]
Why are you only comparing people in different industry? What if you’re an hourly wage worker who works twice as many hours as your coworker? Nothing is stopping your coworker to do the same except him/herself.

[an]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SD Realtor]Penalizing someone for busting ass and working hard makes no sense to me.[/quote]

Hard work is very relative.

Does a coal miner work harder or does a Realtor? How about an executive who works hard in the boardroom, on the golf course, at dinner parties and on the private jet, etc..?

Our society doesn’t compensate hard work per se, but compensation is based on supply and demand, connections and being at the right place at the right time.

If one make more money because society makes it possible for one to earn that money, then one should pay more because one benefits more.[/quote]
Why are you only comparing people in different industry? What if you’re an hourly wage worker who works twice as many hours as your coworker? Nothing is stopping your coworker to do the same except him/herself.

[an]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SD Realtor]Penalizing someone for busting ass and working hard makes no sense to me.[/quote]

Hard work is very relative.

Does a coal miner work harder or does a Realtor? How about an executive who works hard in the boardroom, on the golf course, at dinner parties and on the private jet, etc..?

Our society doesn’t compensate hard work per se, but compensation is based on supply and demand, connections and being at the right place at the right time.

If one make more money because society makes it possible for one to earn that money, then one should pay more because one benefits more.[/quote]
Why are you only comparing people in different industry? What if you’re an hourly wage worker who works twice as many hours as your coworker? Nothing is stopping your coworker to do the same except him/herself.

[an]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SD Realtor]Penalizing someone for busting ass and working hard makes no sense to me.[/quote]

Hard work is very relative.

Does a coal miner work harder or does a Realtor? How about an executive who works hard in the boardroom, on the golf course, at dinner parties and on the private jet, etc..?

Our society doesn’t compensate hard work per se, but compensation is based on supply and demand, connections and being at the right place at the right time.

If one make more money because society makes it possible for one to earn that money, then one should pay more because one benefits more.[/quote]
Why are you only comparing people in different industry? What if you’re an hourly wage worker who works twice as many hours as your coworker? Nothing is stopping your coworker to do the same except him/herself.

[an]

[quote=briansd1][quote=SD Realtor]Penalizing someone for busting ass and working hard makes no sense to me.[/quote]

Hard work is very relative.

Does a coal miner work harder or does a Realtor? How about an executive who works hard in the boardroom, on the golf course, at dinner parties and on the private jet, etc..?

Our society doesn’t compensate hard work per se, but compensation is based on supply and demand, connections and being at the right place at the right time.

If one make more money because society makes it possible for one to earn that money, then one should pay more because one benefits more.[/quote]
Why are you only comparing people in different industry? What if you’re an hourly wage worker who works twice as many hours as your coworker? Nothing is stopping your coworker to do the same except him/herself.

[gandalf]

State of CA tax code is badly in need of reform. Worse than federal code because of the revenue implications for the state, amplitude of increase/decrease across business cycles.

[gandalf]

State of CA tax code is badly in need of reform. Worse than federal code because of the revenue implications for the state, amplitude of increase/decrease across business cycles.

[gandalf]

State of CA tax code is badly in need of reform. Worse than federal code because of the revenue implications for the state, amplitude of increase/decrease across business cycles.

[gandalf]

State of CA tax code is badly in need of reform. Worse than federal code because of the revenue implications for the state, amplitude of increase/decrease across business cycles.

[gandalf]

State of CA tax code is badly in need of reform. Worse than federal code because of the revenue implications for the state, amplitude of increase/decrease across business cycles.

[SK in CV]

[quote=meadandale]So you can understand why I have to laugh every time a liberal, including Obama, asserts that I’m paying lower taxes since he took office.[/quote]

He (and I) only assert it because it’s probably true. For 98% of taxpayers it is. If you had the same income and same deductions over the last 2 years, you are paying lower federal income taxes, unless you happen to be one of the fortunates that have earnings over $200,000. In that case, you might be paying higher taxes. And yeah, it’s all there in black and white.

[SK in CV]

[quote=meadandale]So you can understand why I have to laugh every time a liberal, including Obama, asserts that I’m paying lower taxes since he took office.[/quote]

He (and I) only assert it because it’s probably true. For 98% of taxpayers it is. If you had the same income and same deductions over the last 2 years, you are paying lower federal income taxes, unless you happen to be one of the fortunates that have earnings over $200,000. In that case, you might be paying higher taxes. And yeah, it’s all there in black and white.

[SK in CV]

[quote=meadandale]So you can understand why I have to laugh every time a liberal, including Obama, asserts that I’m paying lower taxes since he took office.[/quote]

He (and I) only assert it because it’s probably true. For 98% of taxpayers it is. If you had the same income and same deductions over the last 2 years, you are paying lower federal income taxes, unless you happen to be one of the fortunates that have earnings over $200,000. In that case, you might be paying higher taxes. And yeah, it’s all there in black and white.

[SK in CV]

[quote=meadandale]So you can understand why I have to laugh every time a liberal, including Obama, asserts that I’m paying lower taxes since he took office.[/quote]

He (and I) only assert it because it’s probably true. For 98% of taxpayers it is. If you had the same income and same deductions over the last 2 years, you are paying lower federal income taxes, unless you happen to be one of the fortunates that have earnings over $200,000. In that case, you might be paying higher taxes. And yeah, it’s all there in black and white.

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